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    Default Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    I have read that 3 versions of VC&A pour homme can be found : vintage, 1st reformulation (not very good) and 2nd reformulation that apparently is closer to the vintage one. Can you tell from which version comes this bottle ?

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    I have read that 3 versions of VC&A pour homme can be found : vintage, 1st reformulation (not very good) and 2nd reformulation that apparently is closer to the vintage one. Can you tell from which version comes this bottle ?

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    This looks like my bottles, so I'd say 3rd.
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    Default Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    This looks like my bottles, so I'd say 3rd.
    Agreed. No “Eau de toilette” anywhere on the bottle. I think first version has it sitting low on the bottle and second has it up just under the fragrance name. Then there’s a “concentree” version that says 85% on it and/or the box.

    Epapsiou is pretty well versed with this fragrance, from what I remember. Papsi, what day thee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diddy View Post
    Agreed. No “Eau de toilette” anywhere on the bottle. I think first version has it sitting low on the bottle and second has it up just under the fragrance name. Then there’s a “concentree” version that says 85% on it and/or the box.

    Epapsiou is pretty well versed with this fragrance, from what I remember. Papsi, what day thee?
    I'm curious about the concentree version. That's the one I own, and the only one I've tried.
    At one time, I thought it was special, i.e. distinct from the EDT. Then at some point, I got it in my head that the Concentrated Cologne was probably just the Eau de Toilette, but with a different name. I can't say I really looked into it, though.

    So I wonder: Is the "concentrated cologne" actually a different blend?

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    I have read that 3 versions of VC&A pour homme can be found : vintage, 1st reformulation (not very good) and 2nd reformulation that apparently is closer to the vintage one. Can you tell from which version comes this bottle ?

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Thank you, Zealot and Diddy.

    Marand75 : I can't answer, I don't own this bottle, it's for sale on a site and I took the pic from this site.

    Additionnal question : is 45€ an acceptable price for such a bottle (100ml) ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roro View Post
    I'm curious about the concentree version. That's the one I own, and the only one I've tried.
    At one time, I thought it was special, i.e. distinct from the EDT. Then at some point, I got it in my head that the Concentrated Cologne was probably just the Eau de Toilette, but with a different name. I can't say I really looked into it, though.

    So I wonder: Is the "concentrated cologne" actually a different blend?
    It’s a fair point and one worth asking. I feel certain observed bottles that are 85% and considered to be Concentree but also state Eau de Toilette on the bottle. Idk. Maybe I’m going crazy. I haven’t had coffee yet. Lol! Maybe the 85% was the original release? We surely need an expert to chime in here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Thank you, Zealot and Diddy.

    Marand75 : I can't answer, I don't own this bottle, it's for sale on a site and I took the pic from this site.

    Additionnal question : is 45€ an acceptable price for such a bottle (100ml) ?
    You’re certainly welcome. I wish I had better concrete information regarding this fragrance. I believe 45€ is acceptable for 100ml. The going rate in the US seems to be (in many cases) a minimum of $70/100ml. So 45€ would not make me uncomfortable. I believe this is a fragrance that will get some measure of hype eventually and that we will see absurdity in pricing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Thank you, Zealot and Diddy.

    Marand75 : I can't answer, I don't own this bottle, it's for sale on a site and I took the pic from this site.

    Additionnal question : is 45€ an acceptable price for such a bottle (100ml) ?
    Okay, got it. Compared to what most sellers charge now, I'd say 45€ is a 'grab it now'!
    For referrence, most prices in europe are easily 100++€.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    is 45€ an acceptable price for such a bottle (100ml) ?
    I think so.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    I believe u have the 3rd formula,
    1st formula will say
    Van Cleef
    &
    Arpels
    Eau de Toilette



    2 formula will say..
    Pour Homme
    Van cleef
    & Arpels


    3rd formula will say.
    Pour Homme
    Van cleef & Arpels

    As with Concentree version , I never seen it to be honest , but I know for the facts of this Fragrance this how all 3 is labeled on the bottle exactly the way I formated

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    guy on Reddit states that VC&A are discontinuing all their regular lines soon so, if true 45Eur could be a steal

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Update : I have been too slow .... The bottle has been sold !
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Update : I have been too slow .... The bottle has been sold !
    I don't think you would have liked it. I would hold out for first version or concentree, if anything.

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    I don't think you would have liked it. I would hold out for first version or concentree, if anything.
    OK, Bavard, thank you for that.
    When reading the answers from Diddy and Drjones I am confused on how to identify vintage versus nbr 2 and nbr3 ....
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Which version is this one ?

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Which version is this one ?

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Thank you, Zealot and Diddy.

    Marand75 : I can't answer, I don't own this bottle, it's for sale on a site and I took the pic from this site.

    Additionnal question : is 45€ an acceptable price for such a bottle (100ml) ?
    That's a steal. Get it before some perfume investment flipper does.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Additionnal update on sept. 18 :

    I got this new and sealed bottle for 37 € :

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Additionnal update on sept. 18 :

    I got this new and sealed bottle for 37 € :

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    3rd version which is very close to the 1st version I don't know what they was thinking with the all black box the 2nd box, it's not bad at all, but it went really synthetic on that one and they came with the 3rd for VCA pH and Tsar ..both 3 Rd versions of each resembles the original the most ..I have that bottle and it's becoming one I the most I miss wearing went I do my rounds with my collection , something about VCA and Tsar is just makes me addicted to the smell..I have many good fragrnace and these two are my top ones

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Additionnal update on sept. 18 :

    I got this new and sealed bottle for 37 € :

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    Have tried the Tsar Van cleef ? If u haven't , u must get it if ur really like this one

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drjones152 View Post
    Have tried the Tsar Van cleef ? If u haven't , u must get it if ur really like this one
    I already have a bottle of Tsar ; nice but I prefer the scent of Pour Homme.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    I already have a bottle of Tsar ; nice but I prefer the scent of Pour Homme.
    I like them both , I love Tsar , but I'm also really liking the VCA PH lately ..

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Sorry for the delayed response, i haven't read this thread before. In case you are still interested, this is the first edition.

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monsieur Montana View Post
    Oh!
    Just picked one of these up.
    This one is really really opaque !- the 2 others I have you can see contents - dim room - phone torch - ta dah.

    Hoping the temp changes in transit settle down.
    This smells close to ODLR Pour Lui - not what I was expecting. Hoping to hope(!) that it hasn't turned either.

    Getting a lot more dry spice - clovey cinamon - than experienced prior. Different rose - like 'Tibet' face cream - more powdery than accustomed to. Not getting any animalic - none of that thudding humid animal salivic nigh on filthy undertone I'm used to. First sprays after transit always throw me right off so.... eek face emoticon.
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Happening to own a bottle identical to the in the first and the 18th post-likely a version subsequent to the initial vintage one
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Happening to own a bottle identical to the in the first and the 18th post-likely a version subsequent to the initial vintage one
    This is the one I really really like!

    What do your 1st editions smell like?!
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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Owned first edition but emptied that one 2 years ago......now 'stuck' with 4x 100ml (not all full) of last edition (leaf pattern box 18th post) which I love as well!
    My Top '12':

    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Mancera: Red Tobacco/Aoud Vanille
    - Armani: AdG Profumo
    - Azzaro: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Antaeus (vtg)
    - Thierry Mugler: A*men
    - Initio: Side Effect
    - D&G: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - YSL: Kouros (vtg)
    - Vermeil: Pour Homme

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    Default Re: Van Cleef & Arpels pour homme : which formulation is this one ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monsieur Montana View Post
    this is the first edition.
    What about those squared splash bottles?




    Quote Originally Posted by Ifti View Post
    Oh!
    Just picked one of these up.
    This one is really really opaque !- the 2 others I have you can see contents - dim room - phone torch - ta dah.

    Hoping the temp changes in transit settle down.
    This smells close to ODLR Pour Lui - not what I was expecting. Hoping to hope(!) that it hasn't turned either.

    Getting a lot more dry spice - clovey cinamon - than experienced prior. Different rose - like 'Tibet' face cream - more powdery than accustomed to. Not getting any animalic - none of that thudding humid animal salivic nigh on filthy undertone I'm used to. First sprays after transit always throw me right off so.... eek face emoticon.
    So, it's not a better current version, rather a different fragrance?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanuel76 View Post
    What about those squared splash bottles?





    So, it's not a better current version, rather a different fragrance?!
    Pffff yeah man, am quite bummed. I think its turned. I had that "so want it to be ok" urgency, but I heeded Hednics advice from some time ago, that I often recall - if unsure or its stressing , out it goes.
    After a few days acclimatising, I thought the test would be... does it smell like VCAPH and honestly, I didnt get that from it, it didnt hit me first off as VCAPH, or even until about 2 hrs later by which time it was skin. So zip power and off for about 2 hrs. Had to go!
    The rose got a bit Hamam Bouquet rose stanky.
    And further more, yes you can see how precious I had got about it (!), the VCAPH I know has spectacular clarity, this was dense, mushy, slushy like a car tree 'freshener'.

    Lol I'm feeling grumpy about it and a few others that are turned.
    Well it was a thrill anyway!!!!!!!
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