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    Luca Turin recently posted on YouTube a series of small lectures on the nature and science of smell. Turin is a decisive personality due to his books (he recently quit Basenotes, because of the vitriol sent his way), but he always has good listening when you move away from his opinions. One of the interesting things I've learned in the past from him was that there is no psychical reaction caused by perfumes that would make your throat swell up or cause breathing to become labored; sure it can bother one's nose (4711 for me), but anyone claiming danger from perfume is just not correct. Anyways, I thought some might find this curious.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/lucaturin/videos


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    Thanks for the information. Just watched the first one and it was really interesting!

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    Awesome! Thanks for sharing. As an avid fan and admirer of Luca Turin, I'll be sure to watch these videos.

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    I still don't know why Luca Turin is so famous and popular in fragrance community, I bought his perfume review book after hearing/reading a lot of references and praises, it was a bunch of non-particularly-impressive reviews. I've seen many better bloggers, basenoters and fragranticans with much more interesting and informative reviews. So is there another reason for it?

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    Thanks for the info.
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    He was fun to talk to for the brief time I got to when he was here. Still sad that unhealthy obsessive personalities and violent egos chased him away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    He was fun to talk to for the brief time I got to when he was here. Still sad that unhealthy obsessive personalities and violent egos chased him away.
    I can understand that anyone who does what Turin did with his books (create an esteemed reference guide) is going to draw ire and controversy, but how many people who've done that have interacted with their respective community. I wish even if people thought all his opinions were bogus they'd have ignored him because he was interesting to have around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWineMemories View Post
    I can understand that anyone who does what Turin did with his books (create an esteemed reference guide) is going to draw ire and controversy, but how many people who've done that have interacted with their respective community. I wish even if people thought all his opinions were bogus they'd have ignored him because he was interesting to have around.
    Agreed. Going a step further, I don't think one can fairly regard Turin's opinions as "bogus." One can reasonably disagree with some or even all of them, but his opinions are well informed and well founded. And you tend to learn more from someone whose point of view differs from your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWineMemories View Post
    anyone claiming danger from perfume is just not correct.
    Depends. Who do you want to believe, people who love perfume or the Canadian Lung Association?

    Chemicals used to add scents to products can cause serious health problems for some people, especially for people with lung diseases such as asthma or COPD .

    While some people are only mildly affected by scents, others have severe reactions. Some common symptoms include:
    headaches
    feeling dizzy
    feeling tired or weak
    shortness of breath
    nausea
    cold-like symptoms
    worsening asthma symptoms
    https://www.lung.ca/lung-health/air-...quality/scents

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    Quote Originally Posted by PStoller View Post
    One can reasonably disagree with some or even all of them, but his opinions are well informed and well founded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post
    Depends. Who do you want to believe, people who love perfume or the Canadian Lung Association?


    https://www.lung.ca/lung-health/air-...quality/scents

    The Canadian Lung Association article is so vague that of course it's true. There's plenty of chemicals that have a scent that can be added that could cause serious health problem. One we all know is oakmoss. That doesn't indicate that IFRA compliant perfumes are these. I'd personally trust someone passionate about perfumes that wants the truth than a vague attempting to be all encompassing bureaucracy statement anyways if the science doesn't fully support said statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldWineMemories View Post
    The Canadian Lung Association article is so vague that of course it's true. There's plenty of chemicals that have a scent that can be added that could cause serious health problem. One we all know is oakmoss. That doesn't indicate that IFRA compliant perfumes are these. I'd personally trust someone passionate about perfumes that wants the truth than a vague attempting to be all encompassing bureaucracy statement anyways if the science doesn't fully support said statement.
    I agree. Very well said .

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackaroma View Post
    I still don't know why Luca Turin is so famous and popular in fragrance community, I bought his perfume review book after hearing/reading a lot of references and praises, it was a bunch of non-particularly-impressive reviews. I've seen many better bloggers, basenoters and fragranticans with much more interesting and informative reviews. So is there another reason for it?
    Ha I'm feeling particularly cynical this morning. Prolly gets some bucks from big Corp.standard.

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    Thanks for the link, will be nice to listen to

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    Before Luca Turin, and a book about him written by Chandler Burr, there were no perfume reviews. The only perfume writing was promotional praise for the purpose of selling. Turin and Burr opened up the concept of perfume as art that could be reviewed like the other arts. The internet blooming at the same time did the rest.

    I am not crazy about zinger reviews myself—some of Turin’s earlier reviews were more filled out—and I admit to not exactly understanding his scientific work—but I credit him with having had the temerity to rock an industry that had no criticism and open up the field of perfumery to scrutiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveoaksBouquet View Post
    Before Luca Turin, and a book about him written by Chandler Burr, there were no perfume reviews. The only perfume writing was promotional praise for the purpose of selling. Turin and Burr opened up the concept of perfume as art that could be reviewed like the other arts. The internet blooming at the same time did the rest.

    I am not crazy about zinger reviews myself—some of Turin’s earlier reviews were more filled out—and I admit to not exactly understanding his scientific work—but I credit him with having had the temerity to rock an industry that had no criticism and open up the field of perfumery to scrutiny.
    Fair plays.
    Yeah I was gonna say - was listening to lecture by Hilary Manetal touched on how the writer can't be 100% comprehensive (its boring and exhausting - the reader will put th ebook down fast) so fair plays for the bitesized and often funny reviews by TL and Sanchez. Controversial, stirring and other adjectives too - good practice for writers!




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