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    Default Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Hi Guys,

    I am confused !! so if you guys can help me out. So I was so focused about buying the Sauvage EDT of all the three choices that it offers as the EDT is supposedly going to give more projection and Sillage untill I saw this video by Roja Dove if you listen to him in this video at 3:20

    https://youtu.be/5AXwObBSVM0

    he says that a lot of peole think that the EDT and EDP is going to give more Projection and Sillage but that is only because it has a lot of alcohol in it which starts evaporating gradually, so what one is smelling is alcohol and guys do get shocked and get blown away by this mystery when it unravels.

    Do you guys agree with this ? So should I buy the Parfum version instead of the Sauvage EDT I want a monstrous projection and sillage of all the three Sauvage !

    Guys please help !

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    the theory is that with more alcohol, you will get more projection because as the alcohol evaporates, it will take the fragrance with it. that is typically why with EDTs you wont get as good of longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avo1811 View Post
    the theory is that with more alcohol, you will get more projection because as the alcohol evaporates, it will take the fragrance with it. that is typically why with EDTs you wont get as good of longevity.

    No but I guess he is saying over all in terms of projection also all round he says Parfum is the best !!

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    So should I buy the Parfum version instead of the Sauvage EDT
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    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    No but I guess he is saying over all in terms of projection also all round he says Parfum is the best !!
    idk about sauvage, but that isnt always the case. just for instance one of his creations, Enigma. the EDP has much more projection than the Parfum. More alcohol.
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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    You have to understand Roja Dove is not a perfumer, but a salesman; that's what he did at Guerlain, and that's what he does for his eponymous brand. It's not a science, but it is common wisdom among perfume users that usually an eau de toilette or eau de parfum will project longer, and have more sillage than an parfum, while the parfum will usually not project as much, will be a skin scent, but also will last longer.

    None of this really matters too much with Dior's Sauvage as that scent changes with the different concentration levels. I personally like the parfum the best. Dior calls it EDT, EDP, parfum more to differentiate between three different scents that all have the same core rather than concentration levels ala old Guerlains and Chanels.

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Yes.
    Yes What ?

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    Yes What ?
    Yes, you should buy Sauvage Parfum over the EDT. I agree with hednic.

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Buy whatever one you like the smell of best.

    Sillage and projection vary throughout concentrations throughout fragrances throughout brands. There is no set rule that applies to all fragrance as to which concentration has the strongest sillage or projection.

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    I prefer the parfum version.
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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    I want a monstrous projection and sillage of all the three Sauvage !

    Guys please help !

    May be your friends that need help
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    Whichever you get, 12 sprays minimum.

    Let's have everyone within 20 feet know what you're wearing.
    Between Covid and retirement I don't get out much. But when I do, I smell real good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
    Whichever you get, 12 sprays minimum.

    Let's have everyone within 20 feet know what you're wearing.
    I would love that !!

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Roja tells alternative versions of the truth. He can be more convincing than a salesperson who sells new cars.
    There’s not a real rule. I.e.: Fahrenheit EDT is a bomb compared to many EDPs.
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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    I think you should avoid Sauvage all together, especially if you plan to wear it to an office or other enclosed space. If you must have a blue fragrance, make it Chanel Bleu EDP.
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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    "should I buy the Parfum version instead of the Sauvage EDT"
    don't buy Sauvage at all, it's really a mediocre fragrance

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    also I think projection isn't related to alcohol content, it may seems logical but I didn't notice that.
    I think perfumers use some chemicals to enhance projection
    like Amouage perfumes have monstruous projection, and even when the paper smells nothing up close it continues to project like a beast. which is quite insane

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    So you guys reckon I should stick to my original plan, and Buy the Sauvage EDT Only as I had decided ?

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    So you guys reckon I should stick to my original plan, and Buy the Sauvage EDT Only as I had decided ?
    EdT is more fresh and projects more, I guess!

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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Dior Sauvage EDP is smells a lot nicer than the EDT would also wear a lot better in office space while still being detectable by others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckmann0706 View Post
    Dior Sauvage EDP is smells a lot nicer than the EDT would also wear a lot better in office space while still being detectable by others.
    That is not what I am looking for. I am indeed looking for something which projects very strong and is kind of in your face !

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    Step away from the fragrance... it should not be used as a weapon.

    In regards to Roja's advice, I think generally what he says must be correct, higher concentration means heavier oils means longer lasting but less projection. I have found this with a fragrance like Heeley Vetiver Vertias which is almost pure vetiver oil, because of the lack of lighter ingredients to jump off the skin it doesn't project much, but the scent does stay on the skin for a very long time. BUT, there are a lot of other factors that can also influence projection, so while it is generally true it is not a hard and fast rule.

    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    That is not what I am looking for. I am indeed looking for something which projects very strong and is kind of in your face !

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    That is not what I am looking for. I am indeed looking for something which projects very strong and is kind of in your face !
    So you want to annoy people and have them think bad thoughts about you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultravisitor View Post
    So you want to annoy people and have them think bad thoughts about you?
    I just don't care I have never worn fragrances thinking what others would think ! Who gives a damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    I just don't care I have never worn fragrances thinking what others would think ! Who gives a damn
    But why would you want to overpower people with something that smells as bad as Sauvage?

    And if you're wearing something specifically to be in other people's faces, then you're caring what others think, as you're actually trying to get them to notice you.
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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by augustya View Post
    So should I buy the Parfum version instead of the Sauvage EDT I want a monstrous projection and sillage of all the three Sauvage !
    Dior sauvage is available in almost every store that sells fragrances , you should sample them and buy whichever you like more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsx View Post
    Dior sauvage is available in almost every store that sells fragrances , you should sample them and buy whichever you like more.

    Yes I know that could be the most obvious suggestion but I’m just trying to figure out here by asking the community what is the public opinion ? what is the common perception is the EDP strong is the EDT strong or is the Parfum strong in projection?

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    They're all equally horrible in my book.
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    Default Re: Roja Dove Left me Confused ! What do I do ?

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowtone View Post
    They're all equally horrible in my book.
    Couldn't agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JON RODGERS View Post
    Couldn't agree more.
    Many of us agree, but he doesn't care. His point seems to be that he wants to invade people's space with the scent.

    On the one hand he says he doesn't care what people think, and yet he wishes to subject them to his scent.
    Between Covid and retirement I don't get out much. But when I do, I smell real good.
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