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    Default Best Landmark Fougere

    I am looking for a landmark, all around good fougere. I am considering two discontinued fragrances: Yohji Homme (1999) and Rive Gauche pour Homme (2003). Both are rather expensive. Any thoughts on these two or others? I am also considering Azzaro pour Homme.

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    Yohji Homme(1st version) and Tin Can Rive Gauche PH are my two fav fougeres. The only complaint on YH is that it’s quiet compared to Rive Gauche which isn’t especially loud as it is. But the scent is fantastic. I almost think Rive Gauche is the morning/daytime one and the YH is a great way to go for night time.

    (I only know current Jules, not vintage, so can’t comment).
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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    There are other, newer, and equally expensive contenders such as Tom Ford Beau de Jour. I believe I owned a bottle of Rive Gauche around 2007 when it was sub $100, but sold it at some point before it became discontinued...bad move.

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    Vintage Azzaro all the way...
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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    Quote Originally Posted by hellbentforleather View Post
    Vintage Azzaro all the way...
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    I think that the two you mention are probably the best extant aromatic fougeres (together with the resurrected Jules). RG is drier and soapier, Yohji Homme darker and with an anisic licorice touch. I would perhaps give the edge to Jules, a bit less standard as a fougere, more green and herbal, but close to the genre nonetheless. I find that the other famous ones, like Azzaro or Paco Rabanne, are too rough in their current form, perhaps they depended too much on the now banned oakmoss. Azzaro is of course much cheaper.

    For older, non-aromatic fougere, I think Mouchoir de Monsieur is still in good form (if a bit weak), and Chanel Boy is classic in style (though it lacks perhaps some sparkle and is very expensive).

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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    Hmm. I wouldn't call Yohji Homme a "classic fougère," though it's arguably a landmark. Azzaro PH and Paco Rabanne PH are obvious affordable classics. (I only know the vintage versions.) A little more upscale, maybe Jicky or Invasion Barbare.

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    I think RIVE GAUCHE POUR HOMME is kind of the king, but I don't know if I'd chase for the $$$ involved. Of course easy for me to say with a small supply of original and intense versions. Never tried the YOJI HOMME but didn't think it was a fougere.

    Love lavender and fougeres. I have a bunch. Some notes below:

    NOBILE 1942 FOUGERE NOBILE- Quite nice. Blends in some leather. Wish it wore stronger.

    AZZARO POUR HOMME- At the price point and quality of this scent, just buy it. It's excellent. Buy it and you'll have plenty left for another fougere.

    TOM FORD BEAU DE JOUR- Grows on me each time I wear it. Pretty modern take on fougere, but solid entry.

    REPLICA AT THE BARBERS- Surprised me how much I like it. But sadly pretty light wearing. A pity.

    HOUBIGANT FOUGERE ROYALE- Probably the true king of fougere scents. Might be the most "old fashioned," but well worth sampling.

    AMOUAGE BRACKEN MAN- Maybe the strongest. Potent clove note in opening separates it a bit from others. Good longevity.

    HISTOIRE DE PARFUMES 1725 CASANOVA- Potent...modern...fougere-ish and gourmand-ish. Really underrated.

    MDCI INVASION BARBARE- I guess it's technically a fougere (or a nougere). I love this one but it doesn't mentally really click for me a fougere though I guess it is.

    CARONS THIRD MAN- Another favorite that I think is considered a fougere. But like IB, I never think of it that way. I generally think of fougeres as "barbershoppy" and this doesn't feel that way to me. I wouldn't argue with anyone who disagrees. Just a very elegant, impossibly pretty scent to me.

    DANA CANOE/AVON WILD COUNTRY/PINAUD CLUBMAN- These three are sort of interchangeable to me. Love using CLUBMAN aftershave and wearing CANOE or WILD COUNTRY. Not sure they're considered fougeres but they are ultimate barbershop to me.

    TOM FORD FOUGERE D'ARGENT- Lots of folks think this is very close to RIVE GAUCHE. I keep trying my decant and just don't get enough out of it.

    PACO RABANNE POUR HOMME- Still wrestling with this one. Very much considered a fougere, but it doesn't feel in the same vein to me. It's nice scent, more than a bit soapy. It's good but feels most dated to me.

    I really like all of them a lot and the only one I would say you really ought to buy is AZZARO POUR HOMME. Just too good a price for a classic great scent.

    The others you'd have to sample for your self.
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    Houbigant Fougere Royale is a superb example of this category.
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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    By classic fougere, I really mean aromatic fougere, the type that has been commonly thought of as a fougere in the 20th/21st centuries. Not a "traditional" green fougere like English Fern, Wild Fern, Crown Fougere, etc.

    Even Houbigant's reissued Fougere Royale is an aromatic fougere. I have a decant and think that it smells okay, though I dislike the level of fruitiness and cedar.

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    I’m yet to find something to replace Rive Gauche.
    I don’t understand.It is so vast that surpasses all understanding.Understanding is always limited.But not understanding can have no boundaries.I feel like I'm much more complete when I don't understand.Not understanding,like I say,is a gift.Not understanding,but not as a simple-minded.The good thing is to be intelligent and not understand.It's a strange blessing, like having craziness without being crazy.It is a meek disinterest,it is a stupid sweetness.

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    As mentioned already above, vintage Azzaro Pour Homme is a serious contender. Especially if you want a quality representation of an aromatic fougere. Better will be a matter of taste rather than quality. It’s quite the yardstick alongside a few others like Rive Gauche Pour Homme.

    You could also try Brut, Tuscany, Pasha but I would personally opt for the Azzaro to get a solid all-round feel for the genre.
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    I think what you're looking for is:

    Azzaro pour Homme (1978)
    Un Homme Charles Jourdan (1979)

    These are my tops for the aromatic style.
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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    I went ahead and ordered a vintage Azzaro PH sample.

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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    Azzaro pour Homme
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    Un Homme Charles Jourdan (1979)
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    Default Re: Best Landmark Fougere

    Unfortunately, the PUIG mother took it out of production in January 2020:

    Penhaligon's - English Fern




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    Castle Forbes - 1 4 4 5 (1st flacon version) -
    almost a twin of English Fern!



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    Quote Originally Posted by StylinLA View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by cologne connoisseur View Post
    Houbigant Fougere Royale is a superb example of this category.
    This one, but not the rerelease. The original is *the* landmark fougere.
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    2) Jasmin Antique (Rogue Perfumery)
    3) Giorgio for Men vintage (Giorgio Beverly Hills) - tie
    3) Giorgio V.I.P. Special Reserve (Giorgio Beverly Hills) - tie

    5) Dia pour Homme vintage edt (Amouage)

    6) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
    7) Nombre Noir (Shiseido)
    8) Lucifer (Renaissance Fragrances) - tie
    8) Monsieur de Givenchy vintage (Givenchy) - tie
    8) Polo vintage (Ralph Lauren) - tie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot Crusader View Post
    I think what you're looking for is:

    Azzaro pour Homme (1978)
    Un Homme Charles Jourdan (1979)

    These are my tops for the aromatic style.
    Two other great ones, the latter in particular.
    Current Top Ten:
    1) Portrait of a Lady original formula (EdP Frédéric Malle)
    2) Jasmin Antique (Rogue Perfumery)
    3) Giorgio for Men vintage (Giorgio Beverly Hills) - tie
    3) Giorgio V.I.P. Special Reserve (Giorgio Beverly Hills) - tie

    5) Dia pour Homme vintage edt (Amouage)

    6) Captain vintage (Molyneux)
    7) Nombre Noir (Shiseido)
    8) Lucifer (Renaissance Fragrances) - tie
    8) Monsieur de Givenchy vintage (Givenchy) - tie
    8) Polo vintage (Ralph Lauren) - tie

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    Quote Originally Posted by cologne connoisseur View Post
    Houbigant Fougere Royale is a superb example of this category.
    Fougère Royale is my go-to "straightforward" fougere, assuming lavender and coumarin are really the hallmarks of the genre. Sophisticated and exceedingly well-balanced.

    Azzaro pour Homme in vintage form is appealing: cool and smooth, with a hint of the metallic feeling. I find it a bit too straightforward for my tastes, but it undeniably does what it does better than the competition, so it's hard to fault.

    I find its spiritual successor, Rive Gaucheñ very underwhelming. I understand that it's distinctive (a blend of Azzaro pour Homme and Barbasol, suggestive of everyday American masculinity in the 80s), but it's nevertheless very synthetic. In the same overall style, I prefer Pascal Morabito Or Black, which subs dark violet in for lavender, adds an effervescent top, and has a bit more complexity and dynamism in its herbal blend. Alas, Or Black seems a bit hard to source at the moment.

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    Fougere Nobile 1942
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    Azzaro Pour Homme is a must.
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    Has anyone tried the Fine American Blend? It is supposed to be a good RG clone. It comes in an EDT as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    I find…Rive Gauche very underwhelming. I understand that it's distinctive (a blend of Azzaro pour Homme and Barbasol, suggestive of everyday American masculinity in the 80s), but it's nevertheless very synthetic. In the same overall style, I prefer Pascal Morabito Or Black, which subs dark violet in for lavender, adds an effervescent top, and has a bit more complexity and dynamism in its herbal blend. Alas, Or Black seems a bit hard to source at the moment.
    It’s not as if Rive Gauche were much easier. I haven’t yet managed to try RG, but I have noted a fairly even split between the hype and “meh” votes. I love Or Black, and the new version is pretty good, though the vintage has significantly greater longevity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bokaba View Post
    Has anyone tried the Fine American Blend? It is supposed to be a good RG clone. It comes in an EDT as well.

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    I have. (it isn't )

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    Quote Originally Posted by PStoller View Post
    It’s not as if Rive Gauche were much easier. I haven’t yet managed to try RG, but I have noted a fairly even split between the hype and “meh” votes. I love Or Black, and the new version is pretty good, though the vintage has significantly gthat fleeting reater longevity.
    You need to explore it for yourself and you will be able to understand both the meh and the hype. The genius is in the simplicity - that fleeting wonderful shaving cream aroma that you wish lasted all day - voila! it does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nucker View Post
    You need to explore it for yourself and you will be able to understand both the meh and the hype. The genius is in the simplicity - that fleeting wonderful shaving cream aroma that you wish lasted all day - voila! it does!
    I should probably pass. My wife hates the smell of Barbasol!

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    Rive Gauche came across as a simulacrum of shaving cream rather than a barbershop frag, to my nose anyway. I can def see the appeal but it's not for me.
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