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    Hey Folks,

    Can anyone, particularly someone with knowledge of, or even better access to vintage versions, provide me with a sober account of the quality of the current Antaeus formulation?

    I have read a number of previous threads on the topic but they often pertain to either the version prior to the current or contain they typical “current reformulation is trash” rhetoric. Zealot Crusader deserves special mention for attempting to provide a reasoned assessment of vintage vs current, but subsequent reading of a seperate thread reveals he was in fact assessing a vintage versus a early to mid 00s version haha.

    So, if anyone can provide a reasoned and nuanced assessment of the current formulation it would be much appreciated!

    Thoughts on whether or not it is worth buying? And if it is in-fact such a pallid a version of itself any suggestions of similar fragrances, which is to say leather/woody Chypres that use castoreum, that may be in better condition.

    Many Thanks

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    Current scent is good, but it has lost in projection compared to the original issue.
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    Antaeus was never this projection monster that people claim. Modern Antaeus is a wonderful scent.

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    Thanks folks. Any specific accounts of the key differences or changes to the scent profile would also be much appreciated, as also more general statements on quality. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voronoi View Post
    Thanks folks. Any specific accounts of the key differences or changes to the scent profile would also be much appreciated, as also more general statements on quality. Cheers.
    In my opinion Antaeus is a perfume with character. You know how some people you meet are just nameless people, and then rarely there's a man or woman out there who seems as though they've stepped out of a wonderful novel? Antaeus is that sort of person. Antaeus has grown and changed, and some people don't like change, but if Antaeus had a physical face, although it's aged it is still recognizable as Antaeus. My nose detects the only major difference being there's a more prominent patchouli in the modern version, but it's nothing like a headshop style essential out patchouli.

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    I think the current version is just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy the frenchy View Post
    Current scent is good, but it has lost in projection compared to the original issue.
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    I like the current version.

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    Current is pretty good. It's quite a bit lighter feeling. Given a bunch of vintage, more than I can likely use, I haven't gone for a bottle of the current version. But having sampled it, I liked wearing it. I was impressed, at times, with how it was updated. I could understand someone liking it more than the original. I think of it as Antaeus Light.

    I like current Antaeus more than current Bandit, if that helps. Bandit is more of a pencil sketch of the older version. Current Antaeus has taken some things away, but other things have been added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bavard View Post
    Current is pretty good. It's quite a bit lighter feeling. Given a bunch of vintage, more than I can likely use, I haven't gone for a bottle of the current version. But having sampled it, I liked wearing it. I was impressed, at times, with how it was updated. I could understand someone liking it more than the original. I think of it as Antaeus Light.

    I like current Antaeus more than current Bandit, if that helps.
    Updating a Classic isn't a bad thing if it's done well. They are, after all, trying to appeal to a completely different generation.

    I own the vintage and Sport version. I haven't worn either for a long time as I developed some sort of reaction to them both. Nothing epidermal, but instead a sense of nausea. I wore both for years before that occurred and I have no explanation for its cause.

    In 2013 I tried that years version of Antaeus in a duty free shop. I truly didn't like it, especially compared to the original. I believe some reforms just don't cut it and they are forced to tweak the formula for the next reformulation.

    Since I see good noses here saying the current offering smells pretty good, I believe it. Not that Antaeus is a cash-cow, but it seems to be popular enough and generational enough to keep it in production and to tweak it so it accommodates the target audience.

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    After 11 years here, it seems like CHANEL ANTAEUS is one of the scents wherein the original vintage version is most romanticized.

    I do often see small bottles of "vintage" ANTAEUS offered for sale online and am tempted to buy one to settle it for my own nose.

    I will say the current version is a very nice scent. It is definitely worth owning.

    KOUROS and ANTAEUS were two big animalic hits from the 80s. Both have been reformulated through the years but retain their basic character.
    Some of the civet has been dialed back in KOUROS and the castoreum dialed back in ANTAEUS.

    From what I can tell, KOUROS has held up better than ANTAEUS is the eyes of those comparing vintage to current.

    I'm sure I would like the vintage versions of both. But I have no qualms about wearing the current versions reformulated more for current sensibilities.
    Between Covid and retirement I don't get out much. But when I do, I smell real good.

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    Thanks everyone. Goldwine and Bavard your comments were particularly helpful.
    Last edited by Voronoi; 22nd November 2020 at 09:28 AM.

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    Still have a decant of my 2018 bottle I've sold.
    Lasts over 10 hours easily and smells nice.

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    Current formulation is okay but is not something that I ever reach for. Performance is moderate
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    I don’t recall what the older versions smelled like but own and enjoy the current version.

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    I have four vintage bottles from the '80s and early '90s along with a bottle from 2011. I like my newest version as much as most of the vintage bottles. If the OP isn't into chasing down a vintage bottle, I think the current version is worth owning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFrank75 View Post
    I have four vintage bottles from the '80s and early '90s along with a bottle from 2011. I like my newest version as much as most of the vintage bottles. If the OP isn't into chasing down a vintage bottle, I think the current version is worth owning.
    When you say you like your newest version, are you referring to the 2011 bottle or a current purchase not included in the 5 aforementioned bottles?

    Serious question.

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    For the record - the latest version was released in approx 2018 wasn’t it? Or as it earlier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voronoi View Post
    For the record - the latest version was released in approx 2018 wasn’t it? Or as it earlier?
    Maybe 2016-ish. There were a few changes around then (e.g., changing edt concentree's to edp's).

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    Thanks for that, Bavard.

    Cheers folks. I have requested a bottle as an Xmas gift.

    Hopefully this thread will prove a useful resource for others. I had noticed many other threads that touched on the recent reformulation of Antaeus had a lot of nostalgia and out-right, often vitriolic, dismissal of the current formulation which I don't think is that useful personally. While I understand that fans of fragrances such as Antaeus and Kouros or other such classics that have been significantly reformulated will often be highly critical of said reformulations, which is totally fair, I think it is best practice for *aficionados* to try and articulate the differences between vintage and current formulations in meaningful and nuanced manner. That way we are producing information that is more useful to the uninitiated. For some reason, compared to other fragrances such as Fahrenheit, I had found it really hard to get this kind of 'sober assessment' of the current formulation on Basenotes or for Antaeus.

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    I haven't smelt current within the last couple of years, but IIRC it is a smoother, easier wear than the vintage - less castoreum, less of that distinctive honeyed beeswax note, and less prominent aldehydes. It stands up well, particularly among all the other dross that's around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    I think the current version is just fine.
    This!

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    Lots of read here too if that is useful to you:

    https://www.basenotes.net/threads/46...urrent-Antaeus

    I own 2x original 80's vintage, middle 00's stuff, a 2016 and a 2020 bottle and still stick to what I wrote in my posts in this thread.
    Huge difference between vintage and current which one is still ok but more of an office fragrance now as it lost a lot of its animalic and power aspect (the 'oomph' it once had is gone, imo). E.g. out of my 2020 version I get no (if hardly any) castoreum nor beeswax anymore the vintage was famous for.
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    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Antaeus (vtg)
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    - Armani: AdG Profumo
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    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Thierry Mugler: A*men
    - SA: Al Basel
    - D&G: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - YSL: Kouros (vtg)
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    The recent version no longer has castoreum. At least I'm not detecting any of it. My bottle is from 2017.
    But it's definitely dirty. There is some vegetal-earthy-sweaty dirtiness. It could be carrot seeds, or maybe it's some earthiness from myrrh and patchouli, sweat from coriander and cumin + jasmine.

    The vintage version (1988) differs a lot from the current version.
    But the current version (2017) it's perfectly fine and it has hefty performances (longevity, projection).

    I get that "wax" + benzoin in the dry down of vintage Antaeus (1988), wax as in (my) natural wax candles. It's awesome.
    The recent version doesn't have that type of natural wax odor, but its amber accord surely has some kind of muddy-waxiness.

    Many will not like the vintage version.
    It makes me laugh when I remember one of my friends deeply worried whispering at me: OMG! I don't know, It may seem OK to you from up close, but it smells awful from here.
    Vintage Antaeus, besides vintage Jules and Gold, is one of the perfumes that my friends hate the most. Which is OK for me, but maybe others are more caring.
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    I bought the current version, direct from Chanel, and it is wonderful to me.

    I never wore it way back then and didn't know the scent since mine was a blind buy - until I smelled it. The scent was so familiar from back then - bars, clubs, etc, so I guess I'd smelled it not knowing what it was!

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    I own both vintage and current and love them both equally. The current is a bit fresher but still a great scent and performs great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg View Post
    When you say you like your newest version, are you referring to the 2011 bottle or a current purchase not included in the 5 aforementioned bottles?

    Serious question.
    My 2011 bottle is my most current version and is not vintage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFrank75 View Post
    My 2011 bottle is my most current version and is not vintage.
    Good to know. I must have sampled a bad batch in 2013 at that Duty Free. There's too many people here satisfied with non-vintage and from what I'm reading, the current is different but good.

    I appreciate the clarification.

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    Ahhh yeh Slayerized there are a few good accounts in the thread you posted, I will admit.

    So do people think there is now little to now castoreum in the current version? Is that general consensus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBF1972 View Post
    I own both vintage and current and love them both equally. The current is a bit fresher but still a great scent and performs great.
    +1 I wore a 2018 batch for a long while and enjoyed it lasted all day and smelled excellent. Currently have a 2015 and 2019 bottle, haven’t wore either yet.




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