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    Default Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    I was alerted to the existence of this new-ish French house by Ebenas. It sounded interesting enough to organize a sample pass of their discovery set -- 8 perfumes and 2 colognes.

    I was attracted by the descriptions of the scents and the backgrounds of the founders. They are a married couple (Valérie and Rémi Pulvérail), the husband of whom was the former ingredients sourcer for Givaudan, and they do all their own manufacturing in the town of Annecy in the Haute-Savoie region of the French Alps. (I also liked that they named their rose scent after the Moroccan farmer who provides their rose absolut.) They launched with one scent in each of the classic categories of fragrances, and they list the percentages of ingredients in each scent on the actual bottle.

    Les Indémodables on their website:
    https://www.lesindemodables-parfums....he-fragrances/

    Les Indémodables on LuckyScent (the only North American stockist)
    https://www.luckyscent.com/brand/827/les-indemodables


    The pass participants will be:

    1. LiveJazz
    2. Kotori
    3. Grayspoole
    4. Epapsiou
    5. IsoEsuperman
    6. Bavard
    7. Cook.bot

    And of course we hope that if you have experience with these scents you'll join in and give us your thoughts on them!

    These should take somewhere in the range of 1-2 weeks to finish, and then be sent on to the next pass participant.

    I'm going to list the scents included in the pass in Post #2, so that those testers who prefer not to know the notes in advance can skip them.

    Annecy, I learned, is a lakeside city in the French Alps just south of Geneva, Switzerland. Just to whet your appetite, here's a picture of the Old Town section of Annecy ("the Venice of the Alps"):

    AnnecyFrance.1.jpg

    (The house name translates as "The Timeless" And just for Epapsiou and his Sickle School of French Pronunciation, it's Layz On-day-moe-DAH-bluh.)

    LiveJazz has now received the samples and we'll get started just as soon as he's able to get sniffing.

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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    The scents in the pass (all EDP strength except the two final eaux de cologne):
    LesIndemodables_ChypreAzural.jpg

    1. CHYPRE AZURAL
    [perfumer not listed]
    Sicilian Tarocco Orange oil 10%,
    Indonesian (Aceh Province) Patchouli oil Grand Cru 5%,
    Amber infusion 2%,
    Egyptian Centrifolia Rose absolute Grand Cru 1%
    Contains Tarragon oil from the Alps

    2. IRIS PERLE
    Perfumer: Antoine Lie
    Orris absolute France grand cru 0,3% (world ‘s most expensive extract).
    Mimosa absolute Morocco 0,25%
    Jasmine absolute India 0,7%
    Ylang Ylang oil VOP Madagascar :0,7%
    Contains Clary Sage from the Alps

    3. FOUGČRE EMERAUDE
    Perfumer: Florence Fouillet Dubois
    Indian Tuberose alcoolat 15% ,
    French (Saint Cristol area) fine Lavender Grand Cru 3%,
    Moroccan Mimosa flowers absolute Grand Cru 1%,
    Venezuelan Tonka beans absolute 3%
    Contains Clary Sage oil from the Alps

    4. CUIR DE CHINE
    Perfumer: Florence Fouillet Dubois
    Chinese Osmanthus alcoolat Grand Cru 10%,
    Egyptian late-crop Jasmine absolute Grand Cru 1%,
    Chinese Osmanthus absolute 1%,
    Turkish Mild Tobacco absolute 0.2%
    Contains Clary Sage oil from the Alps

    5. ORIENTAL VELOURS
    Perfumer: Florence Fouillet Dubois
    Indian Jasmine alcoolat Grand Cru 5%,
    Madagascar Green Vanilla oleoresin Grand Cru 2.5%,
    Somalian Myrrh oil 15%,
    Haitian special Vetiver oil Grand Cru 10%
    contains Épicéa oil from the Alps

    6. MUSC-DES-SABLES
    Perfumer: Antoine Lie
    Green Mandarin Italy 4,9%,
    Patchouli Indonesia essence 1,1%,
    Amber Grey tincture 0,7%,
    Orris absolute France 0,7%

    7. ROSE DE JAMAL
    Perfumer: Antoine Lie
    Rose absolute Morocco 5,5%,
    Cedarwood oil Morocco 2,8%,
    Pink pepper Co2 Madagascar 1,7%,
    Lavande fine oil France 0,7%
    What also makes Rose de Jamal special is its name: named after the Les Indémodable exclusive partner in Morocco, Jamal Chaboun, who produces this special Rose harvest (among other ingredients). Jamal owns his plantations, controls the crops, and has mastered extraction processes.

    8. VANILLE HAVANE
    Perfumer: Antoine Lie
    Unique in house extracts used:
    Vanilla ‘mauvais’ Comoros infusion Grand Cru : 9,1 % :
    Cocoa Colombia ultrasound extract Grand Cru: 3,1 %
    Jasmine Egypt concrete ‘distillat’ Grand Cru: 0,2%

    LesIndemodables_EscaleEnHaiti.jpg

    9. ESCALE EN HAITI - Eau De Cologne
    Perfumer: Antoine Lie
    (Full ingredients not listed)
    22% concentration of Grand Cru distillation of Les Cayes Haitian Vetiver
    Escale En Haiti Fragrance Notes: Pink pepper, juniper, Haitian vetiver, tonka bean, myrhh

    10. ESCALE EN INDONESIE - Eau De Cologne
    Perfumer: Antoine Lie
    (Full ingredients not listed)
    Grand Cru tincture of white ambergris from Sumatra, Indonesia
    Escale En Indonesie Fragrance Notes: Bergamot, lemon, neroli, Indonesian ambergris, jasmine, sandalwood

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    Here we go!! Thanks CB for setting this up and for posting the descriptions separately...to that point I will go ahead and do this blindly.

    To kick things off, the smell coming from the sample baggie is lovely. A mish mash, of course, but an enjoyable one. Fruity-floral-juicy-warm-bright, and modern. It is drawing me in and making me think these are going to be really appealing and wearable.
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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    I’ve tried them all except the two new colognes, my favourites were Chypre Azural and Vanille Havane.
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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    Quote Originally Posted by cazaubon View Post
    I’ve tried them all except the two new colognes, my favourites were Chypre Azural and Vanille Havane.
    Do you recall what you liked about them well enough to give us your impressions, Caz?

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    I have a question. After reading your intro, and particularly the part about the ingredient listings, I read a little more of their copy. It doesn't sound like the full ingredients listed in every case, right?

    In Lucky Scent's words
    each bottle lists the percentage of expensive naturals used in each formula.
    And per Les Indemondables site:
    A GUARANTEE OF RAW MATERIAL QUALITY - Our guidelines set qualitative formulation constraints on our perfumers, specifically requiring them to use significant quantities of the most valuable natural extracts.
    I interpret that to mean that other things may be present, but to the extent that carefully extracted naturals are present, they are listed in detail.

    Just seems like kind of an important point one way or the other in how we should think about these scents, so wanted to clarify.
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    Vanille Havane

    Strting here since it's frickin' freezing here right now and this sounds appealingly warm. Big honking vanillas are usually too sweet and one-dimensional for my tastes, but this is great - lots going on.

    The “Havane” is readily apparent: A beautiful, fluid, humid tobacco note. Pipe tobacco dipped in a toasted vanilla syrup. The toasty vanilla dominates for about the first minute, and then it becomes more about the hay-like sweet tobacco, which is always a great compliment to the smell of vanilla bean...taking it sort of tonka-ish. Maybe there's tonka here. Or maybe it's just how this vanilla is, who knows. There’s a boozy element creeping in, which I imagine is meant to represent spiced rum, since we’re in Havana.


    The basic chord of the thing is well architected. It’s rich, dark, and a little raw, like there are bits of vanilla bean floating around. The spiced booze is just a seasoning; this isn’t a boozy scent, except the extent that vanilla itself can be boozy. There is also a dark fruit note. It makes me think of (and want) chocolate covered raisins. It’s brimming with good stuff, but keeps itself in order. It gets a little overly sweet for my tastes deeper in the base, but it’s still very smooth and flowy.

    Not sure I could wear it a ton, but it sure does smell nice. Off-hand, the closest parallel I can call to mind is Bruno Fazzolari’s Ummagumma. That’s more chocolatey, but some of the underpinnings feel similar. Maybe I’ll do a direct comparison later.

    Thumbs up!

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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
    I have a question. After reading your intro, and particularly the part about the ingredient listings, I read a little more of their copy. It doesn't sound like the full ingredients listed in every case, right?

    I interpret that to mean that other things may be present, but to the extent that carefully extracted naturals are present, they are listed in detail.

    Just seems like kind of an important point one way or the other in how we should think about these scents, so wanted to clarify.
    Good question. I didn't actually ask it myself when I read about the ingredients, because I just assumed there would be other non-naturals (aromachemicals) included in the formulae.

    Maybe I'll see if I can email the makers on their website and ask it of them.

    +++++++++++++++++

    You made Vanilla Havane sound pretty danged appealing. Seems like a good omen for the whole batch. Tobacco/rum/vanilla/dark fruit might not be groundbreaking, but it usually speaks to me. Did it seem particularly masculine?

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    I've ordered a sample set as well a few weeks ago, but I haven't received it yet... So far I've only tried Iris Perle and I was very impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yellowtone View Post
    I've ordered a sample set as well a few weeks ago, but I haven't received it yet... So far I've only tried Iris Perle and I was very impressed.
    Ooo, I hope you receive it soon so you can join us in sampling, Yellowtone! I always enjoy your impressions and evaluations.

    Our old pal Ebenas should be coming along for the ride, too. I might drop her a note to give her a nudge.

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    I'll email the company to see what's up with the delivery.

    For now, I can add my thoughts on Iris Perle, which I'm wearing again today. I like it a lot for its complexity. It's a bit of a shape shifter as well, each time I wear it I discover new aspects. During my first wearing, I was mostly struck by the similarity between Iris Perle and Une Fleur de Cassie. There is a strong presence of yellow, dusty powdery flowers-on-the-turn, sweet yet dirty, that really makes me think of the Malle. But this is also clearly an iris centric fragrance, so there's a powdery green orris aspect to it as well, that, combined with the lighter citrus notes reminds me of the beautifully fresh and airy take on iris that is Nuee Bleue By Maison Violet. Now I would personally have never made any connection between UfdC and Nuee, but somehow the dirty and heady aspects mesh very well with the cleaner aspects in Iris Perle. This time around I also get quite a bit of leafy green notes during the opening phase that later read as lightly soapy. It somehow manages to feel modern and classical at the same time, and I enjoy it very much!
    Currently wearing: Nuit de Noël by Caron

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    These all sound delightful. Can’t wait until I get my turn.

    Cook.bot, thanks so much for setting up this sample pass. I did not know about this line until you enlightened me.
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    Yellowtone, you make that sound like an iris to look forward to.

    Quote Originally Posted by grayspoole View Post
    These all sound delightful. Can’t wait until I get my turn.
    Me too. I'm trying to drop my usual shell of brittle cynicism about new releases because I would truly like to have something to get excited about. Covid isolation has nearly destroyed my sense of adventurousness.

    The ones I'm most looking forward to are Cuir de Chine and Escale en Haiti. I'm a total sucker for a good osmanthus scent, and combining its leathery apricots with tobacco sounds charming to me. And I can never have too many vetivers.

    Cook.bot, thanks so much for setting up this sample pass. I did not know about this line until you enlightened me.
    My pleasure!

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    I discovered that I also have a sample of Chypre Azural, so I wore that today.

    A chypre, this is not. Instead, it is an orange scent that zips through many phases from its bright and bitter start to its powdery sweet conclusion. It opens with oily lemon and orange rinds, bitter and more dry than juicy. At this stage it reminds me of vintage citrus scents like Pour Monsieur, but without the mossy backbone. It then quickly develops brisk neroli and petit grain notes that tumble around for a while. After that juicier orange notes take over, joined by a tart yet edible orange blossom. The scent then turns sweet and sour, as the orange blossom becomes more powdery, creating a fizzy orange candy powder impression. At this stage it reminds me a little of Habit Rouge, and this impression gets stronger when de vanillic base sets in. In all, a long lasting citrus with quite a bit of body, deceptively named a chypre.
    Currently wearing: Nuit de Noël by Caron

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    I recently got samples of this whole line so I really look forward to playing along at home and seeing how my take lines up with all yours! So many people’s opinions I value in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proust_Madeleine View Post
    I recently got samples of this whole line so I really look forward to playing along at home and seeing how my take lines up with all yours! So many people’s opinions I value in this thread.
    That's great! The more the merrier.

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowtone View Post
    I discovered that I also have a sample of Chypre Azural, so I wore that today.
    In all, a long lasting citrus with quite a bit of body, deceptively named a chypre.
    You know, I had a feeling from seeing the notes that it wasn't going to be very chyprish. I do like a decent orange citrus scent (though not an orange blossom or neroli one), but I can't really tell from your remarks whether you liked it or not. Are you giving it a thumbs up or down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    You know, I had a feeling from seeing the notes that it wasn't going to be very chyprish. I do like a decent orange citrus scent (though not an orange blossom or neroli one), but I can't really tell from your remarks whether you liked it or not. Are you giving it a thumbs up or down?
    I liked it. I'm not a straight up citrus wearer; I like the scent of oranges, but I tend to find citrus scents a bit boring to wear all day. What I enjoy about this one is that it has some progression and development to keep it interesting, and the dry down is beautiful. What I also appreciate is that the longevity of the orange is not achieved by a big whack of scratchy woody aroma chemicals, which seems to be the thing most perfumers use to create a mor full bodied orange scent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    Annecy, I learned, is a lakeside city in the French Alps just south of Geneva, Switzerland. Just to whet your appetite, here's a picture of the Old Town section of Annecy ("the Venice of the Alps"):

    AnnecyFrance.1.jpg
    I've been here, just once, but that spot is memorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    Our old pal Ebenas should be coming along for the ride, too. I might drop her a note to give her a nudge.
    Consider me nudged!!

    I'll join in after Wednesday, which is the day of my thesis defence (at long long last...) over zoom - I have a date with some very nice vintage Chanel for the viva itself...

    I really enjoyed this sample set - appreciated all of them, and really liked quite a few, and will follow along re-sniffing once the horror has passed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebenas View Post
    Consider me nudged!!

    I'll join in after Wednesday, which is the day of my thesis defence (at long long last...) over zoom - I have a date with some very nice vintage Chanel for the viva itself...

    I really enjoyed this sample set - appreciated all of them, and really liked quite a few, and will follow along re-sniffing once the horror has passed...
    Looking forward to you being able to join in here.

    You've been a thesis candidate for the entire time I've known you; what a milestone it will be to finally put it behind you. I hope you mean you'll be wearing vintage No. 19 for your viva -- that should show them you mean business!

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    Alrighty, time for a notes drop!

    Fougere Emeraude
    Dewy, floral, grassy, mojito fougere. There is a mixed green-white floral accord on time that I think is based around tuberose, but if that's what it is, tuberose's most assertive elements have been sanded smooth, leaving a fleshy yet cooling, pastel, minty profile. Very easygoing. The opening green-floral smells idyllic and mellow. The minty element of the (I assume) tuberose, combined with the relaxed and semi-sweet undertone, makes me think of a mojito. This would be a nice perfume for a spring brunch with mojitos.

    The accord starts to air our and turns into a very clear, classic, bright fougere accord. Lavender is rich-smooth, sort of like how the the note is handled in Caron's Third Man, and we have a bright haylike tonka to round it out. Think of Fougere Royale's deep base accord, but warmer.

    This one felt meticulously crafted and had a great transition from top to bottom. Unique, too...can't say I've smelled a fougere with such a soft, dewy-cooling-floral opening...but still ends up as a crystal clear fougere. Loved it; I'd wear this often.

    Rose de Jamal
    At the very start, I'm worried. Huge, thick, sweet, jammy rose right out of the gate. If this accord lasted, it would be too much for me, but things settle in and some green elements come out. Now it smells like a very straightforward, pure, quality, rose soliflore. This lasts most of an hour, and then it transitions into a smooth woody base.

    I keep thinking of Eau d'Italie's Paestum rose, less in the literal smell and more in the transition from rose to woods. Paesteum adds a bucket of spice to its rose and lands at a Duchafourean cedar-incense. Here, the focus is more squarely on the rose, and the closing wood more polished. The very final phases smell like a salty-woody skinscent, sort of Creed-like, making me think there's a little dash of ambox in there, used with very delicate hand.

    Nicely done, high quality, but I'm not that excited about it.

    Escale en Haiti
    Green grassy vetiver, served neat. I mean, that's almost all that needs to be said. It's a really good, pure, fresh vetiver. I think of Malle's Vetiver Extraordinaire in its purity and focus. That one leans more airy and mineralic, and this one more grassy-green. It fades very quickly to a (nice) sweetish salty vetiver skinscent.

    I can't think of much else to elaborate on. If you like laser-focused green vetivers (cough ISO cough) you'll probably love it. I'd prefer a little more personality and flair, but for what it is, it's very very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
    Alrighty, time for a notes drop!
    How did you find the endurance of these to be, LJ? With high proportions of naturals, I was afraid they might be short-lived.

    It sounds like they've created a truly unisex fougere, one that I'm now excited to try.

    And that rose, while not aimed at you (nor at me) sounds like it could make a rose-lover pretty happy.


    Escale en Haiti
    If you like laser-focused green vetivers (cough ISO cough) you'll probably love it. I'd prefer a little more personality and flair, but for what it is, it's very very good.
    And (cough Cook.bot cough) as well. You couldn't have come up with any words that would please me more. Sounds terrific.

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    Hi all--

    Just noticed that ClaireV has just reviewed some of these on her excellent blog. The first part out today with the promise of more to come...

    http://takeonethingoff.com/blog/2021...cuir-de-chine/

    It's a veritable Les Indémodables Movement...or something...
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    Quote Originally Posted by grayspoole View Post
    Just noticed that ClaireV has just reviewed some of these on her excellent blog. The first part out today with the promise of more to come...

    http://takeonethingoff.com/blog/2021...cuir-de-chine/

    It's a veritable Les Indémodables Movement...or something...
    Bandwagon!

    I'll have to drop her a note and complain about her stealing our thunder.

    Seriously, though, in addition to her usual wit and pungent writing, she made me even more curious to smell these. And doubly eager to sniff Cuir de Chine with her comparison to Osmanthe Yunnan, an Hermes that I adore. Osmanthus and leather, bring it on!

    Thanks for catching this and posting, Grayspoole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    How did you find the endurance of these to be, LJ? With high proportions of naturals, I was afraid they might be short-lived.
    I think it just depends on the materials in play. Nothing feels artificially extended, but notes also don't seem particularly fleeting.

    Vanille Havane was a beast, the Rose was about average for the genre, maybe a bit light, the Fougere lasted impressively considering its fresh and gentle nature. The vetiver is a lightweight, but it's meant to be if it's an EDC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebenas View Post
    Consider me nudged!!

    I'll join in after Wednesday, which is the day of my thesis defence (at long long last...) over zoom - I have a date with some very nice vintage Chanel for the viva itself...

    I really enjoyed this sample set - appreciated all of them, and really liked quite a few, and will follow along re-sniffing once the horror has passed...

    Haaaa yes! Tomorrow is the day, I'm so happy for you! Vintage No.19 seems like the perfect green companion to wear during this momentous occasion. I'l be rooting for you from my couch tomorrow, I hope you'll fully enjoy the moment despite the inevitable nerves and the awkward zoom format. Wel'll finally get to call you Dr Ebenas!

    And thanks for the heads up about the reviews by Claire V grayspoole, I'll be reading them with interest.

    My sample set finally arrived, so today I'll be testing 2 scents: Rose de Jamal and Cuir de Chine, because I am impatient.
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    I can be short about Rose de Jamal: that's a big fat no for me. Which is a shame, as I love rose scents and this one started promising; a juicy, high pitched, fresh rose accord, acidic, but not in the usual fruity or overtly citrusy way. This pretty rose is soon joined by a hefty dose of woody aroma chemicals and I'm sad to say the rose doesn't stand a chance against this onslaught. Rose de Jamal turns out to be a rosy wood, rather than a woody rose, and within the hour the radiant woods have taken over completely. It's not the worst offender in the ever growing scratchy-dry-and-unnaturally-radiant-woody category, but it's placed squarely enough in that territory for me to give it a hard pass.

    Cuir de Chine is far more interesting, though it doesn't rival my favourite in this scent category, Ormonde Jayne's Qi. Where Ormonde Jayne is a fresh, delicate, green tea and fresh apricots on light suede, Cuir de Chine is sun dried apricots (not the orange ones but the sticky brown ones that have a dried fig like quality to them) on thick but supple tanned leather. The dried fruit aspect is not particularly boozy or sweet, but it doesn't have the juicy, fuzzy skinned fruitiness of fresh fruits, which is why this scent has a darker, denser feel than Qi. I know I have smelled Osmanthe Yunnan at some point, but I can't recall that experience well enough to make a comparison. I seem to remember that as light and transparent in feel, which Cuir de Chine is not. Upon first application the leather, dried fruit and herb combo had an almost animalic feel to it, and I was more reminded of 1740 Marquis de Sade than anything else, but as the scent progresses this visceral quality dies down considerably. I'm not the greatest lover of dried fruit notes, but the dryness and lack of sweetness of this scent make it work for me, especially when the floral side of the osmanthus becomes more apparent later on. A like, not a love for me, I think.

    * hot tip: do not leave a paper strip with one spray Vanille Havane lying around anywhere close to you as you're testing any of the other fragrances. That one is an absolute HONKER of a scent that drowns out everything else in a 10 mile radius. Damn
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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    I asked LiveJazz's question on the Indemodables website, and got the following response from Rémi Pulvérail. As you'll see, he doesn't really answer the question.

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    Hello Indemodablistas! I have a question about your ingredient listings.

    I've just purchased an Indemodables discovery set, and have arranged a sample pass for a group of people to test them and record their impressions on the perfume forum Basenotes. You can see the forum participant reactions here:
    https://www.basenotes.net/threads/48...%C3%A9modables

    We're wondering if your ingredient listings give only the types and quantities of naturals used -- that is, there may be other non-natural aromachemicals used that aren't listed along with the naturals?

    And if there's anything you'd care to tell in the forum as we sample these scents, we would love to hear from you!

    Thank you,

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    Rémi Pulvérail
    Mon, Feb 15, 5:29 AM (1 day ago)
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    Hello,
    Thanks for you message;
    The brand ‘Les Indémodables' has been created by my wife Valérie PULVERAIL.
    I am the founder of the Lab which has been in charge of creating & manufacturing this collection;
    Our Lab is quite unique in France as we master internally all the expertises of perfume creation & manufacturing from the plant until the bottled perfumes. We are specialised in limited perfume editions, and bespoke creations for wealthy individuals.
    The independent perfumers working with us (Antoine LIE being the Head of creation in our company) are using our unique palette of ingredients which comprises more than 20 exclusive natural extracts labelled "Grands Crus".
    Our binding and transparent Charter of excellence imposes that we disclose the % of the most precious (and expensive) ingredients used in each of the formulas; we did realise that most niche brands claim to use the best ingredients without providing any tangible elements…this is what you will find in the ‘Indémodables’ collection booklet with some more details about each perfume, the collection spirit, as well as the creative bias.
    I hope this will answer your question !
    With my best regards

    Rémi Pulvérail
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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    Having smelled a few of them, I'm fairly certain they are using some modern ACs for form polished, modern bases. There is a still a focus on quality naturals resting on that foundation.

    I keep thinking of Maison Francis Kurkdijan...the personality of these seems similar, and maybe MFKs would smell a little like this if they focused on good raw materials as a compliment to the AC structures that gives the line its sleek/modern personality. Certain modern Creeds also feel similar...like Fougere Emeraude reminds me somewhat of the vibe of Windsor/Royal Mayfair in hindsight, but Emeraude is much better.
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    Default Re: Sample Pass and Testing -- Les Indémodables

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveJazz View Post
    Having smelled a few of them, I'm fairly certain they are using some modern ACs for form polished, modern bases. There is a still a focus on quality naturals resting on that foundation.
    Yellowtone's experience of their rose would certainly seem to support your theory.




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