Code of Conduct
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 39
  1. #1
    Dependent
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    1,197
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    I've noticed that most fragrances I've sampled fit into an easily recognizable trend for the era they were released in.

    For example, Lapidus Pour Homme (1987) has this loud, perfumey flamboyance about it, similar to other eighties fragrances like Kouros, Santos, and Antaeus.

    All the blu/bleu/blues from Chanel, Dior, Versace, RL, and Missoni smell similar and were released within a decade of each other.

    But what are the fragrances that don't make sense for the era they were produced in? That didn't follow any perceivable trends and didn't inspire copycats for their time?


    Dior Fahrenheit (1988)
    This smells ahead of its time even today. I think eventually some designers emulate its style, but not until 15 years later. And even then, I've never come across Bora Bora Exotic, or Ferrari Uomo in any stores. Most of the Macy's-tier designers never attempted to do their own version of Fahrenheit.

    Gucci Guilty Absolute (2017)
    This doesn't follow any trends from the '00s or the '10s. It smells like the brown leather interior of a car. Or Band-aids. There's a hint of a petrol-like note. This is a defiant rejection of the popular ambroxans and gourmands.

  2. #2

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Mugler A*Men - released in 1996 but it's probably the one that started the gourmand trend, no? (Never tried Animale Animale even though that one came out in 1994)
    Rive Gauche pour homme - released in 2003 but might as well have been 1973. Great scent which didn't really stand out enough it seems.

  3. #3
    Dependent chopwet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Cape Town
    Posts
    1,803

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh V. View Post
    ...

    Gucci Guilty Absolute (2017)
    This doesn't follow any trends from the '00s or the '10s. It smells like the brown leather interior of a car. Or Band-aids. There's a hint of a petrol-like note. This is a defiant rejection of the popular ambroxans and gourmands.
    Yes but doesn't it just follow trends from an earlier era?

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Hoover View Post
    Mugler A*Men - released in 1996 but it's probably the one that started the gourmand trend, no? (Never tried Animale Animale even though that one came out in 1994)
    Rive Gauche pour homme - released in 2003 but might as well have been 1973. Great scent which didn't really stand out enough it seems.
    I believe Mugler's ground-breaking Angel actually has that distinction doesn't it?



    As for Rive Gauche PH, perhaps its problem was that it stood out too much and that's why it never took off? It's a pity because it's one of my absolute favourites.

    To this list I'll add Givenchy's misunderstood Insensé. I think masculine florals still haven't had their era yet (in our lifetimes, I know that they had their time in eras past). This was released as a mainstream designer fragrance in 1993, no wonder it failed. It's not the type of thing you fall in love with upon first sniff. Unlike many modern fragrances that might attract us based upon the briefest of dalliances, this one is challenging and it requires several wearings before you fall in love. I would classify this very much as unisex too. I still find the opening a bit challenging but it settles down to a wonderfully comforting scent. Great stuff


  4. #4

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    A*Men is a ''men's'' fragrance, hence why I mentioned that one specifically.

  5. #5

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Hi Hugh,

    Great idea thread! I am forever in search of the (so called) oddities, the "Char-lieee in the box" Fragrances if you will. I find that there are just too many "also ran" Fragrances (while not bad per se) are often too similar/alike in their make up. I'll take the "Char-lieee in the box" any day of the week.

    Example : 1978 "Yatagan" by Caron is a Aromatic Green fragrance for men. Yatagan was launched in 1978. The nose behind this fragrance is Vincent Marcello.

    Ha! I did not know until mere moments ago that the Nose behind "Yatagan" (Vincent Marcello) was also the Nose behind "Halston Z-14" (circa 1974).

    SixCats!

  6. #6

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    YSL M7

  7. #7
    Hobbes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Minneapolis
    Posts
    592

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Dior Homme (the original)

  8. #8
    hednic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Reside in McLean, Va., Manhattan NYC, Manuel Antonio Costa Rica & Búzios Brasil
    Posts
    340,464

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by mistersmellgood View Post
    YSL M7
    For sure!
    Remember that while it is perfectly acceptable to criticize the content of a post - criticizing the poster is not.
    Mean spirited, nasty, snide, sarcastic, hateful, and rude individuals on Basenotes don't warrant or deserve my or other Basenoters' acknowledgement or respect.

  9. #9
    Dependent Slayerized's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    9,720

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh V. View Post
    Gucci Guilty Absolute (2017)
    This doesn't follow any trends from the '00s or the '10s. It smells like the brown leather interior of a car. Or Band-aids. There's a hint of a petrol-like note. This is a defiant rejection of the popular ambroxans and gourmands.
    Why not see this one as a modernized Knize Ten, almost 100 years later?
    My Top '12':

    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Mancera: Red Tobacco/Aoud Vanille
    - Armani: AdG Profumo
    - Azzaro: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Antaeus (vtg)
    - Thierry Mugler: A*men
    - Initio: Side Effect
    - D&G: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - YSL: Kouros (vtg)
    - Vermeil: Pour Homme

  10. #10
    Dependent
    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    California
    Posts
    8,612

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh V. View Post
    Gucci Guilty Absolute (2017)
    This doesn't follow any trends from the '00s or the '10s. It smells like the brown leather interior of a car. Or Band-aids. There's a hint of a petrol-like note. This is a defiant rejection of the popular ambroxans and gourmands.
    This is the one that actually came to mind upon reading the thread title.

  11. #11
    Dependent deltasun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Cloud 9
    Posts
    7,137

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Fahrenheit is an obvious shoe in for this
    Top 5 Current Obsessions
    1. Louis Vuitton Ombre Nomade
    2. Marc-Antoine Barrois B683 Extrait
    3. Mugler Over the Musk
    4. Zadig & Voltaire This is Him!
    5. Tiziana Terenzi Ursa
    Currently wearing: Hindu Kush by Mancera

  12. #12

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by chopwet View Post
    Yes but doesn't it just follow trends from an earlier era?



    I believe Mugler's ground-breaking Angel actually has that distinction doesn't it?



    As for Rive Gauche PH, perhaps its problem was that it stood out too much and that's why it never took off? It's a pity because it's one of my absolute favourites.

    To this list I'll add Givenchy's misunderstood Insensé. I think masculine florals still haven't had their era yet (in our lifetimes, I know that they had their time in eras past). This was released as a mainstream designer fragrance in 1993, no wonder it failed. It's not the type of thing you fall in love with upon first sniff. Unlike many modern fragrances that might attract us based upon the briefest of dalliances, this one is challenging and it requires several wearings before you fall in love. I would classify this very much as unisex too. I still find the opening a bit challenging but it settles down to a wonderfully comforting scent. Great stuff

    In my opinion, neither A*Men nor Gucci Guilty Absolute Pour Homme "fit into an easily recognizable trend for the era they were released in." Excellent examples, OP and Larry Hoover.

    I'll add Tom Ford's Noir Anthracite as a recent release that goes against "the easily recognizable trend for the era [it was] released in."

  13. #13

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerized View Post
    Why not see this one as a modernized Knize Ten, almost 100 years later?
    "fit into an easily recognizable trend for the era they were released in."

  14. #14
    Basenotes Institution Danny Mitchell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    13,911

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Definitely Fahrenheit. I can also get behind Gucci Guilty Absolute as well.
    I wonder how unique Eau Sauvage was when it first came out.
    "Ducks eat for free at Subway."

  15. #15
    Dependent Slayerized's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    9,720

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeaveli2682 View Post
    "fit into an easily recognizable trend for the era they were released in."
    'But what are the fragrances that don't make sense for the era they were produced in? That didn't follow any perceivable trends and didn't inspire copycats for their time' (I reacted to this with a kind of 'wink')....
    My Top '12':

    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Guerlain: Héritage (vtg)
    - Mancera: Red Tobacco/Aoud Vanille
    - Armani: AdG Profumo
    - Azzaro: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - Antaeus (vtg)
    - Thierry Mugler: A*men
    - Initio: Side Effect
    - D&G: Pour Homme (vtg)
    - YSL: Kouros (vtg)
    - Vermeil: Pour Homme

  16. #16
    Basenotes Plus

    ILikePeeps's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    T̛e̢x͡as͜
    Posts
    7,851

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    With the boom of niche and indie in recent years, I'd say it's kind of a bust for this timeframe, lol.

    Caron L'Anarchiste, maybe?

    Edit: Oh, crap. Designers. My bad, lol. Then perhaps Fahrenheit, yeah Gucci Guilty Absolute Pour Homme for the modern scene. A*Men.
    **Resident Basenotes .gif responder!**
    dougczar: "Like I always say, if you like something BUY IT. If you love it, BUY TWO."
    Tmoran: "Gamma radiation made the hulk but I dont think he could drink a bottle of kouros and survive."
    All Hail King Kouros!

  17. #17
    Dependent ThVH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2020
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    1,171

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    With regards to the time released, definitely Eau de Rochas pour Homme. GGA also, I think.

  18. #18
    Dependent speckmann0706's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    8,172

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    I agree with Gucci Guilty Absolute Pour Homme, I’m glad this was released one can only hope more stuff like this and masculine are to follow. I enjoy freshies but when a pure masculine is released I’m ready to pounce!
    Current Top Favorites:

    Ralph Lauren Polo
    Azzaro Pour Homme
    Dior Eau Sauvage Parfum 2017
    Chanel Bleu De Chanel EDT
    Chanel Egoiste
    Costume National Homme
    Hermes Bel Ami
    Guerlain Habit Rouge EDT
    Caron Le 3čme Homme
    Chanel Allure Homme Edition Blanche EDP

  19. #19

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerized View Post
    'But what are the fragrances that don't make sense for the era they were produced in? That didn't follow any perceivable trends and didn't inspire copycats for their time' (I reacted to this with a kind of 'wink')....
    I still don't think GGA "makes sense" for the era it was produced in from a purely commercial standpoint. If you can go back nearly 100 years (you wouldn't have to go back that far for GGA), hard to imagine anything that doesn't follow any trend perceivable by someone whose knowledge goes back so far into the past

  20. #20

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    "Bugatti" by Bugatti ? 1992, powerful lemon, vanilla, and animalic.

    Bugatti.jpg

  21. #21

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by chopwet View Post
    Yes but doesn't it just follow trends from an earlier era?
    This. While I enjoy Gucci Guilty Absolute, I think describing it as odd or challenging or whatever... is odd!
    Spray less, love more.

  22. #22
    Basenotes Plus

    ILikePeeps's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    T̛e̢x͡as͜
    Posts
    7,851

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Sté View Post
    "Bugatti" by Bugatti ? 1992, powerful lemon, vanilla, and animalic.

    Bugatti.jpg
    Oh man, I want to smell this!
    **Resident Basenotes .gif responder!**
    dougczar: "Like I always say, if you like something BUY IT. If you love it, BUY TWO."
    Tmoran: "Gamma radiation made the hulk but I dont think he could drink a bottle of kouros and survive."
    All Hail King Kouros!

  23. #23
    Basenotes Institution dougczar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    31,088

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by mistersmellgood View Post
    YSL M7
    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post
    Dior Homme (the original)
    These two for sure.
    Current Winter Favorites:

    1. House of Matriarch - Blackbird
    2. Brückner - Aoud 1
    3. Creed - Royal Oud
    4. Stéphane Humbert Lucas 777 - Generation Man
    5. Armani Privé - Oud Royal
    6. by Kilian - Straight to Heaven
    7. Stéphane Humbert Lucas 777 - Mortal Skin
    8. Creed - Royal English Leather
    9. Creed - Bois du Portugal
    10. by Kilian - Cruel Intentions

  24. #24

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbes View Post
    Dior Homme (the original)
    This and Dior Homme Intense.
    Follow Upcoming Sync Fridays For 2021 HERE:https://www.basenotes.net/threads/48...d-Fridays-2021

    Fragrance Reviews:http://www.basenotes.net/fragrancereviews/13373062

    Interested in Learning about Discontinued/Vaulted Creeds? Join Basenotes' Creed Group: http://www.basenotes.net/group.php?groupid=35

  25. #25

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by ILikePeeps View Post
    Oh man, I want to smell this!
    The scent is just unbelievable.

    In case you missed this topic:

    https://www.basenotes.net/threads/32...-Original-1992)

  26. #26
    Dependent MELVCMS01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    1,805

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Michael Kors for Men, definately.

    Very unique release with nothing like it at the time and enjoyed absolutely no competition at all.

    It was niche juice 20 years ago!

    A quality

  27. #27

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Tom Ford Noir Anthracite!

  28. #28

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Joop!? Mainly because of the colour. Not sure if I ever smelled it.

  29. #29
    Basenotes Institution Danny Mitchell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Posts
    13,911

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    Tom Ford Noir Anthracite!
    Ah, yes! This is an oddity of oddities, IMO. Great stuff.
    "Ducks eat for free at Subway."

  30. #30

    Default Re: Fragrance oddities of their time (Designer)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooks Otterlake View Post
    Tom Ford Noir Anthracite!
    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Mitchell View Post
    Ah, yes! This is an oddity of oddities, IMO. Great stuff.
    I wear it once; I didn't like the mono-granitic smell. I'll give it more tries.




Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10th April 2021, 05:30 PM
  2. What is your TOP 3 DESIGNER of all-time??
    By FurryCalamari in forum Male Fragrance Discussion
    Replies: 111
    Last Post: 5th October 2019, 08:18 PM
  3. Replies: 11
    Last Post: 17th December 2016, 07:38 AM
  4. Suggest a day time and night time fragrance guys
    By Raj in forum Male Fragrance Discussion
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 5th April 2006, 07:00 AM
  5. Some Byblos Oddities
    By scenteur7 in forum Male Fragrance Discussion
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10th June 2005, 10:35 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  



Loving perfume on the Internet since 2000