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    Default Re: Guess the highest ranked fragrances on Basenotes / Fun competition

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm not going to say if this is on there or not, but as you've already got two on the board, I'm ignoring this post
    Fair enough but then you have to let it run longer
    Can't have basenoters failing at this competition.
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    Okay! Not Double Vanille for Guerlain of the last 15 years... Not sure what else at the moment.

    Then the Xerjoff must be 17/17 Irisss, a true BN favourite I haven't even tried yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by epapsiou View Post
    never heard of Gobin Daude.
    Was it any good?

    Sadly never got to try them, but there's a few old threads from the olden days

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClockworkAlice View Post
    Okay! Not Double Vanille for Guerlain of the last 15 years... Not sure what else at the moment.

    Then the Xerjoff must be 17/17 Irisss, a true BN favourite I haven't even tried yet!
    Yep!

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    # 4 is Egoiste Cologne Concentree, why did CDave2 get credit for it?? *I* guessed it correctly - Egoiste and ECC are different fragrances!

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    Chanel Egoiste?
    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    Chanel Egoiste Cologne Concentree!

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    Okay, I'm going to fill in the missing ones from the list

    Thanks for playing everyone. Please PM me your address if you got one right and I'll send out some packages of stuff

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    Default Re: Guess the highest ranked fragrances on Basenotes / Fun competition

    Thank you, Grant!
    It was fun to play and to watch others guessing!

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    Thank you

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    Default Re: Guess the highest ranked fragrances on Basenotes / Fun competition

    Yeah, I think we're going to need more such competitions in future, Grant!

    Thanks for doing this. Time to do some work now.

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    List in full

    1. Shalimar Extrait (PrinceRF)
    2. Mitsouko Extrait (gimmegreen)
    3. Vol de Nuit Extrait (NighthawkAtTheDiner)
    4. Égoïste Cologne Concentrée (cdave2)
    5. Les Heures de Parfum - IV L'Heure Fougueuse (KrzysiekPL)
    6. Tribute Attar (chypre)
    7. Cuir de Russie Eau de Toilette (Wingie)
    8. 17/17 Irisss (ClockworkAlice)
    9. Patou pour Homme (original) (motorcade)
    10. Azzaro pour Homme Intense (original) (H_west)
    11. Quand Vient La Pluie / Guerlain
    12. Sève Exquise / Gobin Daudé
    13.Normandie / Jean Patou
    14. Habit Rouge L'Extrait (pelle)
    15.Révillon pour Homme (romus)
    16.Homage Attar (epapsiou)
    17.Orion
    18.Siberian Musk (LinePlaneVolume)
    19.Bois des Îles Eau de Toilette (jansch)
    20.Kouros Eau de Sport (Gilturko)
    21.Antaeus Sport (Iso E Super Man)
    22.Mediterranean Neroli / Zegna
    23.Djedi (Sheik Yerbouti)
    24. EO No.1 / Ensar Oud
    25.Antiquity / Areej
    26.17/17 Homme (rum)
    27. Ruh (avo1811)
    28.Super Fragrance for Men / Etienne Aigner
    29. Baque (epapsiou)
    30.Au Coeur du Desért (ImaFedec)


    In case you're interested in what the list looks like if you bump up the minimum votes to 50 then it looks like this...


    1. Égoïste Cologne Concentrée (Chanel)
    2. Tribute Attar (Amouage)
    3. 17/17 Irisss (Xerjoff)
    4. Patou pour Homme (original) (Patou)
    5. Homage Attar (Amouage)
    6. 17/17 Homme (Xerjoff)
    7. Baque (Slumberhouse)
    8. Au Coeur du Desért (Tauer)
    9. Diaghilev (Roja)
    10. Aventus (Creed)
    11. Patou pour Homme Privé (Patou)
    12. Monsieur Carven (Carven)
    13. Bois des Îles Parfum (Chanel)
    14. Derby (Guerlain)
    15. Alien Essence Absolue (Mugler)
    16. Dior Homme Intense (Dior)
    17. Sycomore Eau de Toilette (Chanel)
    18. L'Air du Désert Marocain (Tauer)
    19. Havana Reserva (Aramis)
    20. Coromandel Eau de Parfum (Chanel)
    21. L'Arte di Gucci (Gucci)
    22. Patchouli (Santa Maria Novella)
    23. Nombre Noir (Shiseido / Lutens)
    24. Jubilation XXV Man (Amouage)
    25. Opium pour Homme Eau de Parfum (YSL)
    26. Amber Absolute (Ford)
    27. Venezia (original) (Biagiotti)
    28. New York Intense (Nicolai)
    29. Les Nombres d'Or : Vanille (di Orio)
    30. Chypre de Coty (Coty)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In case you're interested in what the list looks like if you bump up the minimum votes to 50 then it looks like this...
    12. Monsieur Carven (Carven)
    22. Patchouli (Santa Maria Novella)
    Interesting to compare the changes! And nice to see these two magnificent juices on this second list - two very recent discoveries of mine.
    Spray less, love more.

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    Also a reminder -- remember to rate the fragrances in your wardrobes as it makes this sort of thing more interesting when there are more votes involved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In case you're interested in what the list looks like if you bump up the minimum votes to 50 then it looks like this...
    [LIST=1][*]Égoïste Cologne Concentrée (Chanel)
    So what you're saying is, I actually guessed the top rated fragrance, but didn't get credit for it cause someone else guessed a different version of the same fragrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Joe View Post
    So what you're saying is, I actually guessed the top rated fragrance, but didn't get credit for it cause someone else guessed a different version of the same fragrance.
    Yep, but you can still have a prize, PM me your address

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    Can’t believe I didn’t think of Ensar EO. 1

    Thought someone would have gotten Areej Antiquity too. Good job Epapsiou on Baque, glad I could provide the spark, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant
    Yep, but you can still have a prize, PM me your address
    Gracefully done Grant, thank you.
    Last edited by cdave2; 17th June 2021 at 01:21 AM.

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    Well, that was the most fun I've had in a while (I must get out more!). And the lists are so worth delving into. Thanks Grant.
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    Default Re: Guess the highest ranked fragrances on Basenotes / Fun competition

    This is a great demonstration of how what look like complex biases emerge from simple but consequential algorithms operating on a set of data. To me this looks like a "respected culty unicorn finder", looking for fragrances of sufficiently limited availability and testing and sufficiently loyal sub-followings that they made no enemies! Not like that's a bad thing, but it's a thing, and maybe a good thing - at least sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdave2 View Post
    Gracefully done Grant, thank you.
    Yes, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In case you're interested in what the list looks like if you bump up the minimum votes to 50 then it looks like this...
    Well, that shut down the bitching I was going to do. The rankings seemed worthless if you only needed one positive review to be judged a "highly rated" entry.

    Fifty votes minimum seems like a more revealing parameter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheetah1919 View Post
    Thought someone would have gotten Areej Antiquity too.
    Thought of Antiquity (probably my #1 right now) but I already had given a guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    Well, that shut down the bitching I was going to do. The rankings seemed worthless if you only needed one positive review to be judged a "highly rated" entry.

    Fifty votes minimum seems like a more revealing parameter.
    yeah, the first one had a minimum vote of 20. Later on I’ll post a list with minimum post of 2 and see what that looks like

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    Thanks Grant, was a great idea.
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    Bois du Portugal / Aventus / Pour Monsieur / Boss Number One (current)
    Sagamore (vintage) / Drakkar Noir / Bright Neroli / Cool Water (vintage)
    Patrick / Allure Homme / Jazz Club / YSL Pour Homme HC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti View Post
    Thanks Grant, was a great idea.
    +1.

    I liked the minimum limit of 20, as it kept us guessing a little more versus a higher limit.
    Spray less, love more.

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    Yea, I think this is right! I thought I've tried quite a lot of fragrances over the years but I tend not to go after unicorns or vintages. From this list I'm familiar with only 3. One of which is the Cartier IV which is really surprising because hardly anyone seems to own or talk about it. But it is one that gets favorable reviews in round ups of the line, so it has a small but passionate following.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    This is a great demonstration of how what look like complex biases emerge from simple but consequential algorithms operating on a set of data. To me this looks like a "respected culty unicorn finder", looking for fragrances of sufficiently limited availability and testing and sufficiently loyal sub-followings that they made no enemies! Not like that's a bad thing, but it's a thing, and maybe a good thing - at least sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    yeah, the first one had a minimum vote of 20. Later on I’ll post a list with minimum post of 2 and see what that looks like
    I would love to have access to such data.


    When compiling such list it is good to also look at Bayesian average. It gives better picture what is highly regarded by the community as a whole and not only appeale to some small segment of it. For this example the Top 30 would look like this:
    1. Jean Patou - Patou pour Homme (original)
    2. Creed - Aventus
    3. Amouage - Tribute Attar
    4. Tauer - L'Air du Desert Marocain
    5. Christian Dior - Dior Homme Intense
    6. Chanel - Egoiste Cologne Concentree
    7. Amouage - Homage Attar
    8. Chanel - Bois des Iles Parfum
    9. Chanel - Sycomore Eau de Toilette
    10. Guerlain - Derby
    11. Amouage - Jubilation XXV Man
    12. Guerlain - L'Instant de Guerlain pour Homme Extreme / Eau de Parfum
    13. Chanel - Cuir de Russie Parfum
    14. Tom Ford - Amber Absolute
    15. Guerlain - Vol de Nuit Eau de Toilette
    16. Chanel - Coromandel Eau de Toilette
    17. Yves Saint Laurent - Opium pour Homme Eau de Parfum
    18. Tauer - Au Coeur du Desert
    19. Jean Patou - Patou pour Homme Prive
    20. Creed - Green Irish Tweed
    21. Christian Dior - Dior Homme Parfum
    22. Guerlain - Spiritueuse Double Vanille
    23. Guerlain - Shalimar Eau de Parfum
    24. Roja Dove - Diaghilev
    25. Guerlain - Shalimar Extrait
    26. Guerlain - L'Heure Bleue Eau de Parfum
    27. Thierry Mugler - Alien Essence Absolue
    28. Hermes - Terre d'Hermes Parfum
    29. Editions de Parfums Frederic Malle - Portrait of a Lady
    30. Nicolai - New York Intense

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrzysiekPL View Post
    I would love to have access to such data.


    When compiling such list it is good to also look at Bayesian average. It gives better picture what is highly regarded by the community as a whole and not only appeale to some small segment of it. For this example the Top 30 would look like this:
    The formula I used was:
    where:
    W = weighted rating
    R= average rating for the fragrance (mean)
    v = number of votes/ratings for the fragrance
    m = minimum number of votes counted
    C = the mean vote across all of the fragrances

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrzysiekPL View Post
    When compiling such list it is good to also look at Bayesian average . . . For this example the Top 30 would look like this
    How does your black box work its magic?

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    This list made me finally pull the trigger on Cartier L'Heure Fougueuse IV.

    $104 for testers at Fragrancenet, for the moment at least.
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