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    Default Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    Hi everyone! Happy to announce what is to hopefully be the first of multiple incense passes! I don’t know about any of you, but incense is what initially sparked my interest in perfumery and I’ve been obsessed with it ever since. Epapsiou and I will be co-hosting this pass as we both have contributed scents to the bundles. The 16 sticks of incense in each are just a small portion of what he and I have and are familiar with, and we both are looking forward to discussing them with the group!

    Much like other passes that have happened over the years, the point here is to experience the scents for yourself and provide your thoughts on them here in the thread.

    This “pass” will be handled slightly differently as we feel that it’s easier to send the bundles out to each participant individually rather than the “take one and pass it along” approach. That being said, to help cover the shipping costs for each, we will be taking donations via PayPal. While it would be great to receive the actual amount of shipping for your individual bundle, any donations are graciously accepted. We are also opening this up to international participants as well, but shipping costs outside of the USA must be provided by you.

    Currently we are set up include 10 people on this pass:

    1. Hat and Beard
    2. Epapsiou
    3. ISO E Superman
    4. Greyspoole
    5. Nj guy
    6. Cook.bot
    7. GoldWineMemories
    8. Bavard
    9. Earlyn
    10. mikeperez23

    Rules:
    -You must be an active Basenotes member. Six months minimum.
    -You must have contributed a minimum of 200 posts to date.
    -If you are participating, you must review each stick of incense in the bundle and provide your initial impressions and opinions.

    Bundle Contents:
    1. Gulabsingh Johrimal - Sandal *full stick*
    2. Gulabsingh Johrimal - Rose *full stick*
    3. Gulabsingh Johrimal - Jasmine *full stick*
    4. Gulabsingh Johrimal - Frangipani *full stick*
    5. Gulabsingh Johrimal - Pine *full stick*
    6. Satya - Nag Champa *full stick*
    7. Satya - Oodh *full stick*
    8. Basile & Walker - No. 1 *two sticks provided.*
    9. Surya - Sandalwood Supreme *full stick*
    10. Balaji - Agar Wood *full stick*
    11. Drikung Charitable Society - Red Crystal *half stick*
    12. Divine Glory - Musk *full stick*
    13. Divine Glory - Strawberry *full stick*
    14. Karnataka Soaps & Detergents Ltd. - Mysore Sandal *full stick*
    15. Nandita - Black Gold *mostly full sticks, but a few 1/2 sticks in the bundles*
    16. Damodar & Co. - Sri Sai Flora *full stick*

    If you’re interested in participating, please send me a private message. Let’s go!

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    General Incense Information:
    This information is available by clicking here, however here is an incense overview for those that are not very familiar with it so you don't have to leave Basenotes:

    What Is Incense?
    Incense is a biological material that produces pleasantly fragrant smoke when burned. Essential oils and plant materials are used in the making of incense. It is used to create an ambiance, produces a pleasant aroma, and is also used in meditation, aromatherapy, and has several other uses as well.

    It should be noted that not all incense is created equally! As you start down your incense journey, you will notice that the quality varies greatly between each different brand you try. I know which types I generally stay away from, but you will learn what works best for you as you try different ones.

    The word incense comes from the Latin word incendere, which means ‘burn.’ The use of incense dates back to ancient Egypt, where priests used it for the fumigation of tombs and funeral ceremonies. Egyptians also used incense to keep demons away and as an offering to their gods during different rituals.

    Types of Incenses
    Incense is normally of two main types, which are:

    -Indirect burning incense
    -Direct burning incense

    Indirect Burning Incense
    Indirect burning incense includes loose resin that requires a separate source of heat constantly to keep the biological material burning. You will find that indirect burning incenses are most commonly used in contemporary settings. This is the kind of incense that requires a censor and a piece of charcoal to burn. Think of frankincense and myrrh etc.

    Direct Burning Incense
    Direct burning incense is lit once and fanned out after a while. It creates a glowing ember that burns the material slowly and releases the fragrant smoke. Direct burning incenses are pressed into a cone, block, or any other shape and are formed around a stick that supports it. Everything in this pass is considered "direct burning" incense.

    Incenses come in many forms which are:

    -Sticks
    -Cones
    -Coils
    -Powders

    It should be noted that the burning duration is greatly affected by the form of incense used.

    Incense sticks are a part of the traditions of many countries like China, Japan, Tibet, and India. Each region has its own recipe and crafting method. Stick incenses usually burn for a short time. Longer stick incenses are also available which may burn for longer. The types of incense sticks that you are most likely to encounter are:

    1. Stick Incense with Bamboo Core
    A stick incense with a bamboo core is the most common type of incense that you will find in any tradition. It includes a central bamboo core with a paste of incense material wrapped around it. The fragrance of the smoke is considered to basically be the fragrance of the core, i.e., bamboo.

    2. Cylinder Incense Stick
    Cylinder incense sticks do not contain a bamboo core. They are made of one material through and through. They are made directly from the dried paste of the incense material. Some examples of this type of incense are simpoi and dhoop.

    3. Joss Sticks
    Joss is a term that originated in China. It describes objects that have a religious nature. However, nowadays, joss is used to refer to incense sticks. Joss sticks do not have a single definition. You will find different joss sticks used in different traditions.

    For example, one tradition may call for an incense stick that has a bamboo core as a joss stick, whereas other traditions may call for a hand-rolled incense stick without a bamboo core as a joss stick. Indian joss sticks contain bamboo in the core, whereas Japanese joss sticks do not have any supporting material in the center. Basile & Walker: No.1 is a considered a joss stick.

    4. Hand-Dipped Incense Sticks
    Hand-dipped incense sticks, as the name indicates, are made using the hand-dipping method. These sticks can be made by dipping either a bamboo incense stick or a masala stick into fragrant oils, which could be synthetic or natural. Divine Glory: Musk & Strawberry are examples of this kind of incense.

    5. Dhoop
    Dhoop incense sticks are common in India and Tibet. These are solid incense sticks that are available in many sizes. They are malleable and soft and can be broken easily.

    6. Agarbatti
    The word agarbatti has been derived from two words; agar, which comes from agarwood or aloeswood, and batti, which means stick. Thus, agarbatti is an incense stick that is made with a wooden core. It is one of the most common types of incense that is used in Indian culture. The Gulabsingh Johrimal sticks, the Balaji: Agar Wood, and Karnataka Soaps & Detergents Ltd. - Mysore Sandal are examples of this.

    7. Masala Sticks
    Masala sticks come from South India, where many kinds of wood, herbs, flowers, resins, gums, oils, and other ingredients are blended together to form a paste. This paste is then spread onto the surface of a bamboo core and dried. Sayta: Oodh, Surya: Sandalwood Supreme, and Nandita: Black Gold are examples of this type of incense.

    8. Durbar Sticks
    Durbar sticks are quite similar to Masala sticks. However, the blend of materials that are used to make them is fairly different and unknown in the west. Solid and liquid ingredients are used to make the paste, as a result of which, these sticks rarely dry out.

    The liquid ingredients are mainly perfumes. The aroma of Durbar sticks is sweet and spicy, and they are soft to touch.

    9. Champa Incense
    Champa incense contains sandalwood and frangipani (plumeria). Champa incense sticks are similar to masala sticks and durbar sticks. However, some unique flowers, like nagkeshar and magnolia are used in their preparation. They also consist of a natural ingredient, Halmaddi, which is only found in India.

    Champa sticks are so named because their fragrance is similar to that of the Champa flower. Halmaddi is hygroscopic. Because of this characteristic, it can absorb moisture from the atmosphere and can feel wet to the touch. Satya: Nag Champa is an example of this kind of incense.

    10. Simpoi Sticks
    Simpoi sticks are thicker than other incense sticks. They are a hand-rolled, Tibetan variety of incense sticks. Drikung Charitable Society - Red Crystal is an example of this type of incense.

    11. Senko Sticks
    Senko can be used to describe any type of incense, either stick or incense blend in Japan. Senko incense sticks do not contain a wooden or a bamboo core. Other names by which Senko sticks are known to include Senkou, Senkoo, and sen-koh.

    12. Fluxo Incense
    Fluxo incense may not suit well to the western palette, but it is quite popular in India. It contains a complex and rich blend of scent along with a number of additional ingredients. The scent varies with the ingredients used, but typically, the fragrance of Fluxo incense is pungent. Damodar & Co. - Sri Sai Flora is an example of this kind of incense.

    13. Cone Incense
    Cone incenses are made from a mixture of essential oils and powders. They release a pungent aromatic aroma that enhances the scent of the entire room, which is required during meditation and yoga practice.

    However, burning an incense cone is not as simple as lighting a candle and letting it burn. There are certain steps that need to be followed when using cone incense.

    Cone incense should be kept in a suitable incense burner that can hold the ash when the incense burns.

    To make sure that the incense sits evenly on the top of the burner, fill the bottom of the burner with uncooked rice or sand. This will help in improving the airflow and will also help in conducting less heat throughout the base of the burner. The burner should be kept on a non-flammable surface and away from any materials that can catch fire.

    Burn the tip of the cone and either blow the flame out or fan it out. You will see a spiral of smoke rising from the tip of the cone, which will indicate that your incense is now burning.

    14. Coil Incense
    As you can assume from the name, coil incenses are coils made from incense material. They are also known as incense spirals. They are considered to be a modified version of stick incenses.

    Coil incenses are made solely from the incense material. They do not contain a wooden or bamboo core in the center. Instead of shaping the incense material into a stick, the material is shaped to form a spiral.

    An incense stick cannot be made too long as it raises the risk of stick-breaking. The major advantage of shaping the incense material into a coil is that it can be made much longer, which can greatly increase the burning time.

    They are much like mosquito coils – you burn incense coils so that fragrant smoke is produced. The coil incense is burnt, and the flame is extinguished after a few seconds, similar to how cone incense is burnt. Coil incenses are available in many sizes and shapes. They come with holders to hold the coil and its ash while it is burning.

    Because of the extended burn time of incense coils, the compact design, and the capacity to be hanged from the ceiling, they are often a popular choice for worshippers. They can be seen hanging from the ceiling in many religious ceremonies and spiritual sites.

    An incense coil having a diameter of 3 to 4 inches can burn for up to 3 to 24 hours. With an increase of only an inch in diameter, the length is increased so much that the burning duration increases from 3 hours to 24 hours approximately.

    Incense coils are a perfect choice if you want to keep the interior smelling fresh and mystic for extended durations.

    15. Powder Incense
    Powder incenses refer to the powdered incense material. They contain incense material only, without any core for support. Powder incense is added to an ignited charcoal disc in a bowl. The powder burns with the ignited charcoal and gives off an aroma that is characteristic of the material being used.

    About The Brands In The Pass:

    Gulabsingh Johrimal/Divine Glory:
    It was 1816, colonial India and also the last chapter in the country’s Mughal history. Lala Gulab Singh, an entrepreneur from Jhajjar, modern day Haryana, immigrated to Delhi, the Mughal Sultanate’s capital. Here, a blessing in the form of a whiff of sublime inspiration encompassed him. Little did he foresee it blossoming into one of the country’s most sought after scent sagas that would span over two full centuries!

    As per the instructions of the angels of fragrant inspiration, he along with his son Lala Johrimal, established a one-of-its kind traditional perfumery in the heart of what we today call ‘Old Delhi’! Plunked in a quaint alleyway of Chandni Chowk , one of India’s bustling grand old bazaars of the ‘Walled City’, he cultivated a repertoire of exotic and ethereal fragrances that instantly cast a spell on the city’s who’s who, right from the royal Nawaabs to the nobility, wealthy connoisseurs to the influential crème of society.

    And so was born the legendary Gulabsingh Johrimal House of Fragrance, once fondly called ‘Gulab Gundhi ki Dukaan’ or ‘the shop of Gulab the Perfumer’. The Sanskrit term Gundhi is derived from gundh meaning fragrance.

    Satya:
    The Beginnings
    A belief in the power of imagination led to the birth of “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya”. In India, scents and rituals co-mingle every day. The gentle aroma of a jasmine garland can provide a sense of grounding here and now. A whiff of Sandalwood Incense from Father’s study is a sign that he is pouring over books or in deep meditation.

    In a land where the power of scent is indisputable, Late Shri K.N. Satyam Setty, the founder of “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya” decided to imagine a world of scents for his Love & Passion.

    He established a small Incense manufacturing unit in the year 1964, making up his mind by understanding ancient way of making Incense with various fragrances, particular interest to him was a practice used by monks in medieval times whereby the key incense ingredients were incorporated and massaged into a special container resin which was then hand-rolled into incense. This technique called “Masala” or “Flora” Incense became the prime driver of production at Shrinivas Sugandhalaya (the other technique, known as “charcoal” incense literally involves dipping the unscented stick directly into the ingredient mixture). Over the years, “masala” incense has established itself to a global audience as lasting longer and stronger per stick than its “dipped” counterpart and Satyam Setty, being the contemporary “King of Masala Incense”.

    Satyam Setty was a keen innovator and used his power of imagination to evoke powerful moods through his recipe blends. One of the best blends from the house was the “Satya Sai Baba Nag Champa”, which is the most sought after and commercially successful masala / flora incense blend across the world till date.

    A New Chapter
    While Satyam Setty revolutionised “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya”, his son Shri Balakrishna Setty joined him & apprenticed under him. Acquainted with the manufacturing process, Balakrishna Setty strives to combine his innovative, genius and creativity with the high standards of the original manufacturing process with the key of purity & quality ingredients. It was his father’s belief & trust in him that made Shri Balakrishna Setty to invent a new fragrance hand rolled Agarbatti called “SUPER HIT”. As NAG CHAMPA & SUPER HIT quickly came to be loved across the country homes, with its success “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya” Incenses became popular for their signature purifying capacities.

    In 2014, our Company “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya (BNG) LLP” raised its head under the Management headed by his son Shri Balakrishna Setty by setting up the manufacturing units in southern city of Bangalore, India.

    Old fans of the erstwhile “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya” are guaranteed with authenticity and vibrancy of their beloved incense brand. While, the new fans are treated to a corpus of new and evolving products from the house of “Shrinivas Sugandhalaya (BNG) LLP”.

    Surya:
    Surya imports all-natural, finest quality, hand rolled incense sourced from the villages of India.

    Since earliest time, sweet fragrances have been associated with refined human activities. Many religions use incense in their traditional ceremonies as natural aromas can uplift the spirit, remove distress, and stimulate healing. They also enhance any space and create a sense of joy. 
 In India, incense is often burned to promote peace, health and prosperity.

    Surya Incense mission is to provide India’s finest incense at an affordable price. We are dedicated to superior quality and value. Surya incense contains no charcoal, no chemicals substitutes and is free of animal testing. All ingredients come from suppliers as committed to the preservation of the environment as we are. The incense is sealed inside a cellophane sleeve and colorful packs to maintain freshness. Surya’s simple packaging is 100% recycled paper. Every product is bar coded for easy check out.

    Balaji:
    Balaji Agarbatti Company is one of the oldest incense manufacturers in India. They are a family-owned business based in Bangalore, India, which is one of the premier incense capitals of the world. Their history began in the 1920’s as the ‘Sri Srinivasa Agarbathi Company’ in a village relatively close to Bangalore, known as Chintamani.

    By the time the 1950’s arrived, his son, Mr. P V Raaadha Krishna Gupta, would end up taking over the family business. It was at this time that he founded Balaji Agarbatti Company in Bangalore in 1957, with a passion to supply a superior product at an unrivaled value.

    Balaji in the Modern Day
    Balaji Agarbatti Company is one of the leading incense brands in the world and their reputation is well respected. Their products are typically very consistent in quality and they continue to innovate and produce new scents and products on a constant basis.

    Balaji Agarbatti Company has state-of-the-art research labs and rigorous quality control procedures and they currently produce over 100 different items, including incense sticks, perfumes, and soaps. Balaji products are sold globally through-out the world and their unique vision and approach to agarbatti manufacturing makes them stand out within the crowded arena of modern incense manufacturers.

    Karnataka Soaps and Detergents Limited:
    KSDL is an Indian company, owned by the Government of Karnataka, that manufacturers personal care products including Mysore Sandal Soap. It was founded as Government Sandalwood Oil Factory in 1916 by Maharaja Krishna Raja Wadiyar IV and M. Visvesvarayafor extracting and exporting sandalwood oil. It launched Mysore Sandal Soap in 1918, and has since manufactured soaps and cosmetics products. The company became a public sector enterprise in 1980 and was renamed as KSDL.

    KSDL obtained the Geographical Indication tag for Mysore Sandal Soap and Mysore Sandalwood Oil in 2006. Apart from soaps and sandalwood oil, KSDL manufactures detergents, fragrances, talcum powder, hand washes, face washes, coconut oil and agarbathis. It has manufacturing facilities in Bangalore, Mysore and Shimoga, and exports its products to 11 countries as of 2019.

    Nandita:
    Nandita Fragrances is the leading manufacturer and exporter fo Pure & Natural Premium Hand rolled incense sticks. They specialise in Natural Masala incense using rare herbs, resins, essential oils etc...

    Nandita products does not contain restricted forest produce or any species of wild fauna and flora wich are listed in the Appendices of the Convention of International Trade in Endangered Species fo Fauna & Flora.

    Sri.K.Y. Achary came from a small village in Udupi, Karnataka to Bombay at the age of 15 with an aim to do business. After decades of hard work, struggle and commitment to quality the single handedly created and incense brand, popular all over the world.

    He was a man of courage, clarity, discipline and independent attitude & life’s shortcomings did not stop him from acheiving his vision. He was also a great philanthropist and charity was his only hobby.

    He led a very simple life till the end and gave God all the credit for his success. His dream of opening a store for incense sticks, prayer items and religious books in the native Udupi was realised in 2012.

    Guided by his light we have launched our excluse Nandita Brand of natural handrolled agarbathis to you.

    Damodhar & Co.:
    Established in 1988 at Bengaluru, Karnataka (India), Damodhar & Co. is known as the prominent manufacturer, supplier and exporter of a comprehensive assortment of products. The ownership type of the company is Sole Proprietorship and we are involved in offering wide gamut of Sai Flora Fluxo Incense Sticks and Sai Divine Fluxo Incense Sticks. These are manufactured using the best quality material and advanced technology in order to have quality production in the industry. Our team of experts makes sure that the operations are carried out in an efficient manner. They perform their functions as per the company’s laws and regulations. Further, our quality analyst tests these products on various parameters to deliver perfect range in the market. Our quality analyst is highly experienced and carries rich knowledge about the domain. The offered products are widely accredited among our esteemed customers due to their nature friendliness, high quality, longer shelf life and reliability. Furthermore, we are offering these products to our esteemed clients at the most affordable price range with an aim to fulfill their demands in a stipulated period of time. Thus, by offering quality products in the market, we have created a reputed niche in this competitive market. We export 20-40% of our products to North America, South America and South Africa.

    Under the guidance of Mr. V. Sainath who is one of the Director of the organization, we have learned new skills to expand the market for our offered products. His vast industry knowledge and acquaintance in this domain has been the guiding light throughout.

    Being a quality conscious organization, we make sure that the products are quality approved at the time of delivery. The products offered by us are manufactured using the best grade raw material and latest technologies in accordance with the set industry standards. We are assured to transport only qualitative product range to the customers and to ensure this, our quality controllers work in a capable manner.

    Basile & Walker:
    This Buffalo, NY based fragrance brand was created out of a combined passion for high quality, handmade products and a never-ending drive to explore the connection between raw materials, incense, perfumery, and experience.

    Basile & Walker is my second personal foray into the world of fragrances after successfully co-launching a niche perfume house based out of Brooklyn, NY that I unfortunately do not get credit for. Sadly, the other part of the brand ended up being an upper echelon chiseler, so on I went in a new direction that connects more to my roots and interests and not the parasitic dreams of others.

    Named after my both of my grandmothers as they were enormous creative and artistic influences in my life, Basile & Walker is an exploration of olfactive expression, a creative journey, and a triumph over adversity.

    Each stick of Basile & Walker: No. 1 is individually handmade from some of the finest woods, resins, spices, and botanicals.

    Drikung Charitable Society:
    The Drikung Kagyu Order is one school within the Kagyupa Tibetan Buddhist sect (which dates to Milarepa, the famous teacher). The order is unusual in that the lineage is carried by two heads simultaneously. In the early 1960s one of the heads, His Holiness Drikung Kyabgon Chetsang Rinpoche, left Tibet for India. Unable to leave Tibet, His Holiness Chungtsang, the other head of the order, was separated from his colleague for almost twenty-five years, their first meeting being in India in 1985. The first American Drikung center was founded under the auspices of the Drikung Kyabgon in 1978.

    In 1985 H. H. Drikung Kyabgon Chetsang founded the nonprofit organization Drikung Kagyu Institute (DKI) in Dehra Dun, India, which strives to preserve, promote, and develop Buddhist philosophy and culture. The institute is made up of four institutions: Jangchubling Monastery, Samtenling Nunnery, Songtsen Library, and Kagyu College.

    The Drikung Order is noted for its teachings on meditation, particularly the Drikung Phowa Meditation, a meditation intimately connected with the experience of death. Traditionally the Phowa Benediction was given every 12 years.
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    Default Re: Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    Oh yeah. Finally. This was supposed to have happened in 2018.
    I just was too lazy. Thanks H&B for pushing it through.
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    It’s not 16 different Shoyeido kyara sticks???? You cheapskates.

    I kid. Thanks for having me and broadening my olfactory horizons. I have very little incense experience outside of stuff I bought from headshops in my teens. This should be fun. Also more than happy to cover at least the shipping.

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    I would be interested in participating\
    Would be willing to pay for shipping

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    I wish! Epap and I actually talked about a specific Japanese incense pass in the future, so hopefully we can get some higher end agarwood offerings in somewhere.

    A lot of the pass items here are things that both Epap and I have grown to love over the years and are excited to hear others opinions on. Some probably smell like head shops (Satya -Nag Champa specifically), but others are a bit of a different vibe. There is a Tibetan one in there, some Indian offerings, and one which is a personal blend of my own.

    Quote Originally Posted by IsoESuperman View Post
    It’s not 16 different Shoyeido kyara sticks???? You cheapskates.

    I kid. Thanks for having me and broadening my olfactory horizons. I have very little incense experience outside of stuff I bought from headshops in my teens. This should be fun. Also more than happy to cover at least the shipping.
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    Perfect! 5 more spots to go!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nj guy View Post
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    Would be willing to pay for shipping

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    PM sent.

    I'm a total noob when it comes to incense, but have been wanting to learn more for a while, and am happy to cover any shipping.
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    You’re in! Welcome aboard!

    Four more spots…

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    I'm a total noob when it comes to incense, but have been wanting to learn more for a while, and am happy to cover any shipping.
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    I have always enjoyed incense. In my decadent youth, I burned different resins on charcoal tablets in a burner, but my DH prefers that our house remain an incense-free zone, Needless to say, I’m looking forward to the incense pass! Thanks to Hat and Beard and epapsiou for pulling it together. (My DH is resigned to his fate and will endure.)
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    Default Re: Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    Quote Originally Posted by grayspoole View Post
    I have always enjoyed incense. In my decadent youth, I burned different resins on charcoal tablets in a burner, but my DH prefers that our house remain an incense-free zone, Needless to say, I’m looking forward to the incense pass! Thanks to Hat and Beard and epapsiou for pulling it together. (My DH is resigned to his fate and will endure.)
    I absolutely love burning different types of loose incense and resins on charcoal! That was my preferred method for a long time as I loved that it was a sort of ritual…preparing your ash/burner, lighting your charcoal, adding your materials in small quantities occasionally.

    That method also helped me learn and explore individual raw materials more, and I used to have a big shelf of many different woods, resins, and spices that I’d burn and mix. It was nice to be able to make a connection between burned materials and how they try and translate that scent into perfumery. Burning frankincense or agarwood are perfect examples as perfumers try and emulate those all of the time. That being said, I’d love to eventually do a raw materials incense pass!

    Too bad that the DH doesn’t like incense too. Just a heads up that some of the incense in the bundles is pretty strong. You may want to burn them in ventilated areas so the DH doesn’t pass out! Haha.
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    Default Re: Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    I have a similar experience with incense. It is burned everywhere in India and so to me it was always a background olafactory noise.
    Only after I got into fragrances I started exploring this.
    I think it was when HatBeard, Cytherian and I met up at a headshop and did an incense and raw material burning session. The owner , Moe I think his name was, burned a lot of good stuff and I got hooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epapsiou View Post
    I think it was when HatBeard, Cytherian and I met up at a headshop and did an incense and raw material burning session. The owner , Moe I think his name was, burned a lot of good stuff and I got hooked.
    Now I'm a little worried that this pass is going to saddle me with yet another addiction.

    Are we going to need any special equipment to enable the burning of these incenses? Or are most of them in the kind of stick format that you can just embed in a pot of sand or lean against the edge of a plate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    Now I'm a little worried that this pass is going to saddle me with yet another addiction.

    Are we going to need any special equipment to enable the burning of these incenses? Or are most of them in the kind of stick format that you can just embed in a pot of sand or lean against the edge of a plate?
    Ha! It is such a wonderful addition to have though!

    For this pass there is not any special equipment needed as all are either masala or joss sticks. If we do the raw materials pass, I will include an incense censor, charcoal, etc. so that nobody has to purchase their own if they don't want to.

    And yes, Moe is his name and he is the owner of an awesome shop on 48th St. in Manhattan called Scent Elate. He also has his own personal incense blend that he has a group of people make for him that is pretty incredible. He claims he uses a fair amount of oud oil in it too. In my blend in the pass, I use agarwood dust.
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    Happy to announce that the initial incense bundles have been shipped and it looks like everyone should be receiving them early next week.

    For those of you that have not yet decided to signed up, there are still four spots left! I have the remaining bundles ready to go, so just say the word and I can get that shipped out ASAP...if you meet the criteria that is.
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    Made an update above and added some photos of the incense so people know what to look for if they are interested in buying it. I'm also going to pull together some info about each company and add that as well, but I am still compiling it. In the interim, here is my first review:

    14. Karnataka Soaps & Detergents Ltd. - Mysore Sandal:
    I used to use the sandalwood bar soap made by Karnataka Soaps & Detergents Ltd. as my daily lather for a long time after Epapsiou introduced me to it, so I was excited to be giving this incense a try! It doesn’t smell like the soap exactly, and the stick itself isn’t very pungent when you smell it directly. Woody with an almost lemony nuance to it. Once lit it’s not particularly strong either, but it is definitely a smooth and creamy sandalwood…and just that. It’s sandalwood only with this one, but that’s completely okay as this is a really nice one! If you were not familiar with burning incense, it should be known that sandalwood is definitely something that is not created equally across the board. Some are sweet, some are really spicy, some have other notes/facets to them. This is the opposite of those. Again, smooth and creamy, but with a dry, uplifting airiness. I like sticks of incense like this as well because you can burn them in a closed or slightly less ventilated room and not be completely suffocated by it. I want to say that it’s reminiscent of Fred Soll’s sandalwood incense offerings, but it’s a much mellower vibe and not nearly as strong. Sometimes the Fred Soll offerings can be total headache inducers if not ventilated properly, but not the KSDL - Mysore Sandal. It was light plumes of smoke for the entire stick, and it lasted for about 35-40 minutes.
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    While we're awaiting the packages, what can you tell us about the manufacturing of incense? Does it all start out as a powder, which get pressed into stick or cone form?

    And is the variety you talk about burning in censors made by a different method?
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    I'd like to join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    While we're awaiting the packages, what can you tell us about the manufacturing of incense? Does it all start out as a powder, which get pressed into stick or cone form?

    And is the variety you talk about burning in censors made by a different method?
    Great idea! Let me throw together some information over the weekend and get it posted here.

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    Amazing. I will send you a private message and we can coordinate.
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    Posted some info above in the original post about types of incense! We don't have all of these kinds in the pass, but a fair amount of them.

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    While we're awaiting the packages, what can you tell us about the manufacturing of incense? Does it all start out as a powder, which get pressed into stick or cone form?

    And is the variety you talk about burning in censors made by a different method?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hat and Beard View Post
    Posted some info above in the original post about types of incense! We don't have all of these kinds in the pass, but a fair amount of them.
    Holy moley, Incense 101. Thanks, HB. Obviously I'll need to review them repeatedly once we get into the samples.
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    Thanks for all of the wonderful information and photos. Looking forward to learning more about incense as I explore the samples in the pass.

    I have never entertained thoughts of making perfume (too difficult) but making incense seems relatively easy.

    Curious to know if anyone has ever tried it.
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    HB is an incense legend

    Trying SW incense today

    Surya Sandalwood Supreme:
    Smelling the pack from a distance, it has a dark burnt rose smell (Iquitos type).
    But then if you smell stick up close you get Tocade - Rose and Vanilla with some woods (not a very strong SW profile)
    It burns well without much smoke and the smell is pretty much rose amber and some spicy sw. Vanilla is not a note in smoke (rarely is in my experience. More so in candles)

    Burns for 40-50 minutes. Not bad but not really a sw incense and so a bit bummed.
    3/5 I would give it.
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    Love the educational overview of incense, Hat and Beard!

    I’m sending a PM and would like to join if there is a spot. More than happy to cover ship++
    I burn resins on charcoal, and sticks both solid and with a substrate. Have to have a separate room for doing it though as not everything I burn is liked by the rest of the house.
    It can be a clever way of staking my territory though
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    My parcel arrived last night, and until I opened it I had no idea how much trouble and expense our host had gone to in order to package these up for our sampling pleasure. So first off, a great big *Thank You* to Hat & Beard.

    Secondly, is there any preferred sequence to attacking these? Are we going to try to keep the whole group on a single scent so that opinions are clustered together? At first I thought I'd start with the numbering given in the OP, but since Papsi leapt into the middle of the pack, I'm wondering about starting with that one (Surya Sandalwood).

    Another question: I'm presuming that the smell of these lingers for a long time after they've burned down, so is there a recommended time between burnings in the same room, so that a previous smell doesn't overlap with a new one?

    And one more: Since I don't have a dedicated incense burning device, I was just going to put a couple of inches of salt in a tall glass and stand the sticks up in the salt. Does that sound appropriate and/or safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hat and Beard View Post
    In my blend in the pass, I use agarwood dust.
    I just noticed this ^. Is one of these something that you concocted yourself?
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    Default Re: Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    My scented cardboard baton arrived yesterday as well, jumping into it today while I have the house to myself.

    Started with Satya Oodh. I recognized the yellow stick from the nag champa I used to burn, turns out to be the same company (blue box with red text). I'm guessing the yellow stick is kind of their signature move. While I haven't burned nag champa in quite a while, this one reminds me of it a lot, at least as best as decades-old memories can serve. Some soft florals, maybe jasmine and rose, along with whatever woody vide the nag champa is built around. I like it and it's making the house smell better. It's a damp, cloudy, cool-ish day here (~69F) and I have the windows open so it's not sticking around too heavily.

    I'm saving half of the stick for when I burn the Satya Nag Champa so I can see how similar they are or aren't. Maybe it will give me better descriptors to describe what I'm smelling because prior to this, the Satya champa was probably the incense I burned more than anything else so my brain just wants to say "well, it smells like incense". I'm thoroughly enjoying the smell though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    And one more: Since I don't have a dedicated incense burning device, I was just going to put a couple of inches of salt in a tall glass and stand the sticks up in the salt. Does that sound appropriate and/or safe?
    That should work well. Much safer than being stuck under a plastic Nalgene bottle that is sitting on a plastic desk, which was my method. I used to pop them into potted plants too. Although I never considered what the ash does for or against plant health.

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    Satya Nag Champa

    First off, thanks to the hosts. My parcel arrived yesterday and all of the sticks are clearly labeled. What an amazing smell once I got the package opened.
    It has been quite some time since I have burned incense. I am not exactly sure how to write a proper review so I will share my notes from the first sample:

    First of all, just burning and enjoying the incense had a calming effect and was a nice way to end the evening.
    Upon lighting I first just noticed fragrant smoke. No notes were discernible. I do not know if the fragrance evolves as it burns, but I did notice differences as the burning progressed. The incense became sweeter and smokier and almost had a "boozy" quality to it. Further on the scent begins to mellow and I am picking up spices with a transition to sweet and woody. Towards the end, the profile changed, the smoky smell dissipated, and I am left with a sandalwood base with floral notes sitting on top with no harshness.

    Enjoyed this very much. Not sure how to tell, but seemed to be of high quality, nothing harsh or chemical smelling.
    Would start with 4/5.

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    Default Re: Hat and Epap Incense Pass - Number 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Cook.bot View Post
    My parcel arrived last night, and until I opened it I had no idea how much trouble and expense our host had gone to in order to package these up for our sampling pleasure. So first off, a great big *Thank You* to Hat & Beard.

    Secondly, is there any preferred sequence to attacking these? Are we going to try to keep the whole group on a single scent so that opinions are clustered together? At first I thought I'd start with the numbering given in the OP, but since Papsi leapt into the middle of the pack, I'm wondering about starting with that one (Surya Sandalwood).
    I think you burn what the mood is. Then in the end just collate the thoughts in the order HB numbered.

    Another question: I'm presuming that the smell of these lingers for a long time after they've burned down, so is there a recommended time between burnings in the same room, so that a previous smell doesn't overlap with a new one?
    I would give it a day. So no more than one a day. The smells lingers for a while.

    And one more: Since I don't have a dedicated incense burning device, I was just going to put a couple of inches of salt in a tall glass and stand the sticks up in the salt. Does that sound appropriate and/or safe?
    Sounds fine.
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